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      Subpath
      last edited by Subpath

      To speed up the process of filling gradients a bit
      i had the following idea.

      As it is we fill a Gradient Node this way:
      select a node and choose the desired fill color
      with the left mouse button in the color wheel.

      And then select the next node and so on.

      I though a more practical way would be
      if we where able to fill the opposite gradient node
      using the right mouse button.
      (without to have select this node first, of course)
      I think that would save some steps of Mouse traveling.

      Video

      0_1659963375279_Right Mouse for Gradient.png

      Win 11
      CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
      GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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        b77 @Subpath
        last edited by b77

        @Subpath You can double-click any of the color stops and you get a popover with the color sliders, the color wheel, its position and opacity.

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          VectorStyler @Subpath
          last edited by

          @Subpath For two color gradients (most are), this could speed up working with the gradient editor.

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            Subpath @b77
            last edited by Subpath

            @b77

            thats not really helpful and no solution
            what i plaid for

            the popover covers the Object sometimes
            you see only a half of a Gradient

            and you have to double click on the first
            node and then double click on the next node

            sorry, before i choose this way i would stay
            with the normal color wheel

            Win 11
            CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
            GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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              Subpath @VectorStyler
              last edited by Subpath

              @VectorStyler

              yes, i also thought that the most Gradients would
              be two colors. So the way i descriped would be useful.

              Win 11
              CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
              GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                b77 @Subpath
                last edited by b77

                @Subpath I misunderstood what you meant, sorry.

                Yes, I agree, this would be an improvement. πŸ‘

                MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                  Subpath @b77
                  last edited by

                  @b77

                  No Problem

                  Win 11
                  CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                  GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                    Ingolf
                    last edited by Ingolf

                    Most of the time when I work with gradients I create several gradient stops. Rarely just two. I am not sure about this idea.

                    I think a better idea is a pop up color selector near gradient stops. Probably discussed before in this forum. Probably implemented in other programs. I think I have seen it - simply too tired now. πŸ™‚

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                      Subpath @Ingolf
                      last edited by Subpath

                      @Ingolf

                      Nothing would stop you (and anybody else) from creating (multi) gradients the way you are used to.

                      After all, you don't have to use the right mouse button if you don't want to.

                      Win 11
                      CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                      GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                        @Ingolf said in Right Mousebutton to fill the opposite Node in a Gradient:

                        Most of the time when I work with gradients I create several gradient stops. Rarely just two. I am not sure about this idea.

                        A basic gradient is two colors and would cover the basics for any gradient being made so it seems like a logical move to have it focus on two colors initially and add more as needed per situation

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                          b77
                          last edited by b77

                          Maybe Ingolf is thinking of something that is even faster β€” one click(?) on a gradient color stop and a small color spectrum(?) appears, if I understand correctly.

                          Although this kinda "overlaps" with the panel you get when you double-click…

                          In any case, maybe he will clarify tomorrow.

                          MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                            Subpath @b77
                            last edited by Subpath

                            @b77

                            sorry to say so, but the possibility via the double-click panel.
                            Is in my eyes the worst of all.

                            see video here

                            0_1659991946400_double click panel.png

                            Win 11
                            CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                            GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                              b77
                              last edited by b77

                              @Subpath If the popover would always * be displayed to the right of the color stop you double-click, it would not be bad at all, I would say.

                              MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                                b77 @Subpath
                                last edited by b77

                                @Subpath The popover overlapping the color stop and the entire object happens when it is too close to the lower margin of the document window.
                                I hope the developer finds a fix for this.

                                But sometimes it is displayed to the right of the color stop, which is ideal… and other times it's displayed under the color stop, not covering it at all.
                                I didn't figure out why.

                                Quick video here: https://recordit.co/mPBsj9laoH

                                MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                                  Ingolf
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                                  I had forgotten about the double click. πŸ˜›

                                  I imagined a much smaller, compact version of that popover - not that big dialog. Perhaps even auto displaying itself after a reasonable unintrusive interval when you hover a gradient stop - or right click it/double click it, whatever.

                                  My issue with gradients in many programs is (also) the many miles my mouse travel from panel to toolbars etc. etc. just to pull a lightness slider a bit, for example. So my point was just that my issue goes for all stops when working with gradients.

                                  I wouldn't mind if a magic popover color dialog could be used for shapes and objects - fill and stroke - as well. Not sure how it should be activated - wouldn't like to drive other people crazy - but editing colors causes a lot of mouse movement from objects to panels etc. etc. I try to keep the panels floating and close but sometimes they are just in the way and add visual noise. And then I have to move them back and forth.

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                                    Ingolf @Subpath
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                                    @Subpath said in Right Mousebutton to fill the opposite Node in a Gradient:

                                    @Ingolf

                                    Nothing would stop you (and anybody else) from creating (multi) gradients the way you are used to.
                                    After all, you don't have to use the right mouse button if you don't want to.

                                    Indeed - no objections - just trying to imagine a solution that works for all gradient stops. πŸ™‚

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                                      Subpath @b77
                                      last edited by Subpath

                                      @b77

                                      this popover panel is much to big
                                      not dragable and not scaleable

                                      apart from the fact that it covers an Object
                                      what should not be happen.

                                      and you need to double click every Node to get this Panel
                                      (not so very much fun on a multi gradient, i guess)

                                      Win 11
                                      CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                                      GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                                        Subpath
                                        last edited by Subpath

                                        I looked around what solutions other Vector programs
                                        offering for this case.

                                        So far like the Magix Graphics Designer (MGD)
                                        way of doing this.

                                        But i don't like that you have to select a small menu first
                                        should go directly in my opinion.

                                        Here are some points I like about the MGD popup panel
                                        -- it stays open
                                        -- it is scalable
                                        -- it is movable

                                        -- you can seamlessly switch between different
                                        objects with different gradients

                                        -- there is a small icon in the Contex Bar when you activate it,
                                        an object will display its gradient nodes when you select it

                                        I made a Video, see here
                                        .
                                        .
                                        and a Picture with selected Gradient Objects
                                        (Btw works in VS too, as i saw)
                                        0_1660031662050_Gradient Objects.png

                                        Win 11
                                        CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                                        GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                                          Ingolf @Subpath
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                                          @Subpath said in Right Mousebutton to fill the opposite Node in a Gradient:

                                          @b77

                                          this popover panel is much to big

                                          Yes

                                          apart from the fact that it covers an Object
                                          what should not be happen.
                                          and you need to double click every Node you have to get this Panel
                                          (not so very much fun on a multi gradient, i guess)

                                          I use a mouse as the only pointing and drawing device, so I would be very happy if a small dedicated color selector could pop up after I hovered a gradient stop for 1-2 seconds (user configurable option including delay interval).

                                          Users using other types of devices would probably prefer some other way of activating the color selector.

                                          I don't think any drawing programs supports this at the moment - I will check my Photo editing programs later.

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                                            Ingolf @Subpath
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                                            @Subpath said in Right Mousebutton to fill the opposite Node in a Gradient:

                                            To speed up the process of filling gradients a bit
                                            i had the following idea.
                                            0_1659963375279_Right Mouse for Gradient.png

                                            But that aside - I actually think this would work after some coffee woke up my mind. A bit like left and right mouse button selects stroke and fill in coreldraw, right, just first and last stop?

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