Align single object to the artboard without enabling the special button for that

b77

@Igull If I remember correctly, in your case drawings get sent to a laser cutter or a CNC?

What happens if the artboard has a bleed — how is this interpreted by the CNC driver?

Igull

@b77 said in Align single object to the artboard without enabling the special button for that:

What happens if the artboard has a bleed

I imagine that it will look for the nearest first-aid box

While I think that a bleed must be some kind of offset/outline, it's not at term I'm used to - tell me about it - it might be of use !

Neil

Boldline

@Igull said in Align single object to the artboard without enabling the special button for that:

tell me about it - it might be of use !

It has nothing to do with bloodletting; a practice performed a couple centuries ago!

Igull

@Boldline said in Align single object to the artboard without enabling the special button for that:

It has nothing to do with bloodletting; a practice performed a couple centuries ago!

b77

@Igull Bleed is needed in printing — here is an explanation: https://www.prepressure.com/design/basics/bleed

CNCs are not printing presses, but if you need objects to be at 10 mm distance from the edge of the board that is getting cut
with the laser, adding 10 mm bleed around the artboard in VS might be what you need — if the software driving the CNC works
with that (if it adds the bleed to the whole).

(Nothing against having a special offset value in the Alignment panel, but maybe using bleed solves it for what you need).

b77

Btw, 'Show Artboard Bleed' is in the View menu > Margins.

Boldline

It would be interesting if one could choose to align to guidelines (unless this is already in VS and I didn't see it)

William Kansepa

Yes, @Boldline, @VectorStyler this is one of the features I am missing from Illustrator; the ability to align and distribute to guides.

VectorStyler

@William-Kansepa said in Align single object to the artboard without enabling the special button for that:

Yes, @Boldline, @VectorStyler this is one of the features I am missing from Illustrator; the ability to align and distribute to guides.

I think this can be added to the features backlog, but it is not clear yet how the alignment to guideline would be specified.
In VS it is not possible to select object or node and a guideline at the same time.

Igull

@b77 said in Align single object to the artboard without enabling the special button for that:

@Igull Bleed is needed in printing — here is an explanation: https://www.prepressure.com/design/basics/bleed

OK, got it, I have seen that before

CNCs are not printing presses, but if you need objects to be at 10 mm distance from the edge of the board that is getting cut
with the laser, adding 10 mm bleed around the artboard in VS might be what you need — if the software driving the CNC works
with that (if it adds the bleed to the whole).

I just gave that a try, my software acts as a "printer driver" (in the loosest sense of the word ). It takes the bounds of the artboard and not the bounds of the bleed (positive or negative).
However, using a negative bleed (ie within the artboard confines), that then becomes useful as you can essentially snap to that as a guideline (when shown). When using a single object and any of the alignment buttons, it still snaps to the bounds of the artboard of course and not the bleed, so that won't work for my scenario. Being able to hit align and for it to align to the bleed would be a better option in this case - probably not what you graphicky folks would like tho

(Nothing against having a special offset value in the Alignment panel, but maybe using bleed solves it for what you need).

I'm open to suggestions, it's something that would be saved in the document template, so could be defaulted to zero and have no effect under normal circumstances (just like the rest of the prefs LOL LOL )

Without using any of the bleed setup, I could create an artboard template for each material size that I use, but that would mean determining it beforehand and that size might change depending on multiple factors - unless you could swap templates mid-stream - now that would be useful - is that even a possibility ???

VS seems to be opening up avenues to easier operation that I hadn't even given thought to - you get so engrossed in what you've used before that other options aren't even considered.

Neil

Boldline

@VectorStyler said in Align single object to the artboard without enabling the special button for that:

In VS it is not possible to select object or node and a guideline at the same time.

This is true and actually I love the fact that you can't grab both at once. It makes selecting objects easier knowing the guideline is not going to be moved by mistake in the process. So, do not change that aspect of this! Lol

My non- programmer minds is thinking if we could create a regular guideline and convert it to another type of guide with the properties that work with aligning. Perhaps the guide was a different color for this? Perhaps they could editable in length? Maybe instead of trying to find a way to grab a guide and object to align, a toggle could be added in the alignment panel that switched alignment to guides?

Igull

@Boldline said in Align single object to the artboard without enabling the special button for that:

This is true and actually I love the fact that you can't grab both at once. It makes selecting objects easier knowing the guideline is not going to be moved by mistake in the process. So, do not change that aspect of this! Lol

Oh-Oh, warning Will Robinson, here's a +1 for not changing that either

Neil

b77

When 'Snap to Artboards' is enabled, objects snap to the artboard and to the bleed line (positive or negative). Nice.

I was thinking that aligning a single or multiple objects can work in a similar way — one click on any of the Alignment buttons
will align the object(s) to the artboard then a second click aligns it/them to the bleed line which is usually outside
the arboard (when bleed is a positive value).

And when @Igull sets up negative bleed values (-10 mm inside the artboard), it will first align to the bleed that
is now inside then a second click will align to the artboard edge.

Any drawbacks to this simple solution?

Igull

@b77 said in Align single object to the artboard without enabling the special button for that:

Any drawbacks to this simple solution?

Yes, that sounds like a plan

Neil