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    • Victor VectorV Offline
      Victor Vector @Subpath
      last edited by Victor Vector

      @Subpath I played around with that and I love the effect.
      I am curious to see what you did after the video ended to see how you handled the overlap.

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        Subpath @Victor Vector
        last edited by Subpath

        @Victor-Vector

        i love this effect too 🙂

        For the overlapping parts, these are just short, simple strokes

        Video see here:

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        0_1652025266006_overlapping-strokes.png

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        CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
        GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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          Subpath @Victor Vector
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          @Victor-Vector

          Btw, there is yet another way to handle a overlap
          you could use "combined strokes" but i think it is
          difficult to use them on curves.

          You could also split strokes by delete a node
          and seperate them. The clone will follow.

          Video: here a try from me
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          0_1652026576914_split-strokes.png

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          CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
          GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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          • encartE Offline
            encart
            last edited by encart

            @Victor-Vector Inkscape has this functionality built in.
            https://recordit.co/mPFctGJrmQ

            Edit:
            In VS we have Crossing Gap Effect, but without any modifications - the newer segments are always above.
            https://recordit.co/7TfjUJRseq

            MacBook Air M4 24Gb, Tahoe 26.2

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              Subpath @encart
              last edited by Subpath

              @encart

              Thats cool 👍
              Thanks for the tip.
              Crazy, whats already build in VS.

              But, as I found out, you need to apply this effect to the layer.
              Does not work only on stroke.

              But it's no problem to then make a clone of the stroke and put it over it. The clone follows the gaps.

              0_1652039054314_Gap-in-Stroke.png
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              you could also do this, this way
              without any clone

              0_1652039846574_Gap-in-Stroke-2.png
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              and this way

              0_1652039871145_Gap-in-Stroke-3.png

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              CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
              GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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              • Victor VectorV Offline
                Victor Vector
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                @encart Thank you for demonstrating the "Crossing Gap" in Effects > Shape Effects > Outline > Crossing Gap. I did not know about that, so I played around with it a bit.
                @Subpath I like how you refined the effect with the tapered double lines.

                I watched the Local Layering video shared by @vectorstyler https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/1531326.1531390 I appreciated understanding the potential issues and the logical problem solving he implemented.
                What is exciting is it looks like the idea is totally doable, especially for shapes.

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                  b77 @Victor Vector
                  last edited by b77

                  @VectorStyler It's great that the app has a way to achieve this already (thanks @encart , I didn't know about Crossing Gap) and this will come handy for an old project here.

                  However, a small improvement I would suggest is making the gap values dependent on the stroke width, so that when you change it the gap is still the same.

                  Currently, if the stroke width is 20 pt and the Above Gap is at 60 pt then you change the stroke to 30, the gap is gone. You need to go to Shape effects, open the Crossing Gap settings and readjust it to… 86, I think.

                  If this value would be the distance between the overlapping path widths (say, 5 pt), changing the stroke widths would make readjusting the gap unnecessary.

                  MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                    Subpath
                    last edited by Subpath

                    one observation i made, if you look at
                    this picture, it is not a Over-Under Effect
                    but still very handy in some cases
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                    0_1652085081640_under or over.png

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                    CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
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                      Subpath
                      last edited by

                      Another find
                      try Shape Effect -> Outline -> Outline Path on a Stroke
                      and play with "Stripe"

                      No clone is used for this effect.
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                      0_1652111182135_Outline-Path.png

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                        Subpath
                        last edited by Subpath

                        The right one is a editable Gear-Shape and is still editable.

                        Have fun to explore how to make it 🙂
                        (Hint: read my previous post and use the Shape panel)
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                        0_1652116516709_Gear-Shape-find-1.png
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                        To simplify things a bit, you can copy a shape effect you once found
                        from a shape and paste it onto another shape!
                        0_1652117008807_Copy-Shape-Effect.png

                        Win 11
                        CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                        GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                        • Victor VectorV Offline
                          Victor Vector @Subpath
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                          @Subpath Wow! I love the power of being able to create such an attractive shape from a gear shape. These are some fun explorations. Thank you for sharing!

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                            Subpath @Victor Vector
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                            @Victor-Vector

                            I love this too, VS seems to be an endless box of miracles 🙂

                            Win 11
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                            GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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