Japanese

VectorStyler

The intended price for VectorStyler will be 99usd (at most), plus per country GST/VAT.
I have not committed to an official release time, to allow more beta feedback and possibly addition of some important features if needed.
But of course there will be new features and bug fixes even after the first release

As for sales mode, I was thinking of doing a similar model as Sketch (Bohemian), Nova (Panic) or Sublime Text.
With a trial mode app downloaded from the website, and a license purchase using Paddle (or Stripe) payment.
I'm open to the mac app store, but the technical aspects of it make it impossible to have fixes and releases fast (I do get 1 or 2 beta builds a week with multiple bug fixes).

The license type is permanent, single payment license (as it used to be). Once purchased, the app is licensed to be used forever.
Again, I'm thinking of licensing model similar to Sketch or Nova.

About the developer: so this is done by a single developer (my name is Csaba), in Finland. (I also teach computer science at the University of Turku in Finland).

If there are any bugs or performance issues with VectorStyler, please report it here and I will try to figure out how to help.
What Mac model and MacOS are you using? Sometimes a bit of configuration (of VS preferences) is needed to get the most out of the app.

Boldline

I don't think he meant "greedy" - VS seems the furthest from being greedy. 99 dollars for a year of upgrades seems totally fine to me. Everyone I know loathes subscriptions and are turning to apps like VS and Affinity in large part because they are subscription-free. I've been hanging on to my copy of CS6 for years now but more and more I feel I can do most of my professional work between Affinity, VS and Clip Studio Paint.

I'm not a developer, but I can only imagine the amount of work it takes to create this kind of software and get it to a point where people will buy it and can use it for professional work. I can imagine it will only get better and better

Adobe is also pretty bloated and VS seems to already offer a powerful number of tools. I don't care if it's in the Apple store or not. I make it a point to always buy apps from the developer directly whenever possible because software ends up getting sand-boxed in the app store and because that monetary percentage Apple takes from each sale will instead goes directly to the developer.

Csaba has been great to work with in terms of updates and new ideas. There are several things I'm hoping get added to the version 2 build after the first one is officially released.

b77

On the other hand, being sold in the App Store opens the door for wider recognition and even a Design Award from Apple — the app is a strong contender to get one, IMO, after a few more bug fixes and UI polish. And if I'm not mistaken, they now take only a 15% cut from smaller developers?

861475_VctSt

@Boldline

First of all, I apologize. I'm sorry to be offended.
It sounds like you misunderstood my translated English expression because it wasn't appropriate.

I don't say developers are "greedy".
I wanted to say that the app itself is "greedy".
It was good to say "lively" instead of "greedy".

In Japanese, it means "mori dakusan".
There are many delicious dishes on the table in front of me.

Again, I'm sorry to the developers.

Boldline

Everything is fine, I wasn't offended. I actually assumed the best that your translated English was not describing what you were truly feeling.
Thank you for the explanation in Japanese, that was fun to read and learn about.

@861475_VctSt said in Japanese:

@Boldline

First of all, I apologize. I'm sorry to be offended.
It sounds like you misunderstood my translated English expression because it wasn't appropriate.

I don't say developers are "greedy".
I wanted to say that the app itself is "greedy".
It was good to say "lively" instead of "greedy".

In Japanese, it means "mori dakusan".
There are many delicious dishes on the table in front of me.

Again, I'm sorry to the developers.

Boldline

@b77 good point. There is a value in getting VS more attention. I had not thought of that. I'm all for putting it in the Apple store. I'll just personally keep buying it direct from VS.

VectorStyler

I keep the app store option open. I think the percentages are not an issue.

ash-f

@861475_VctSt What you were trying to say about "greedy" is "feature packed" usually in English.
No worry. people knows what you want to say.

ash-f

Listing on app stores may be good but apps on app stores tend to have problem. due to security restriction, policy restriction, not being up to date and so on. so I prefer app to be provided directly by the developer.

861475_VctSt

@ash-f
Thank you.
I intended to be anthropomorphic, but it's misleading.
I was allowed to study.
:
Please continue to point out if I write something that is unclear.

VectorStyler

@861475_VctSt Japanese typesetting is implemented in build 1.0.022.

ash-f

@vectoradmin
Thank you.
I tried on Windows quickly and I noticed a problem.
I seems that the vertical text need to be starting with a Latin character in order to show Japanese.
Otherwise if I start typing with a Japanese character, the vertical text end up empty.

VectorStyler

@ash-f What font was used?

ash-f

@vectoradmin
It's Yu Mincho.
Also Some Japanese fonts installed on the system are missing on the font list, such as Meiryo, MS Gothic or Yu Gothic.

VectorStyler

@ash-f said in Japanese:

Meiryo, MS Gothic or Yu Gothic

I will open an issue on this one. Was not yet tested well enough on Windows.

861475_VctSt

@ash-f

VS does not recognize fonts related to the mac OS system.
This has been a problem since the beginning of the beta version.
Try it with "Morisawa" or "FontWorks".

Let's think about what to do with system-related fonts later.

ash-f

@vectoradmin
Thank you.
Please refer this page.
Besides MS Gothic, MS P Gothics, they are built-in fonts on Windows.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/typography/fonts/windows_10_font_list#japanese-supplemental-fonts

I can see 3rd party Japanese fonts such as KozGo/KozMin(Adobe) or Noto Serif/Not Sans(Google) though.

VectorStyler

@ash-f Is editing in the vertical text frame working with 3rd party fonts?

ash-f

@vectoradmin
No. doesn't work regardless of which font I use.

VectorStyler

@ash-f Looks like on Windows, the installed TTC (truetype collection) fonts are not detected. This is a bug, and will be fixed in the next build.
It can be worked around by copying these fonts into a user created folder and using Text -> Font Manager -> Add Folder to add this folder as fonts to VectorStyler.