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      Subpath
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      @VectorStyler

      sorry, i dont get it can you help me out
      what is meant with the contex menu in this case ?

      Win 11
      CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
      GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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        VectorStyler @Subpath
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        @Subpath said in Schoolboy Circle Question:

        what is meant with the context menu in this case

        When holding the Control key and then pressing the mouse button (left button on Windows), a popup menu is opened with some contextual actions.

        This gets in the way into Control+ drawing an ellipse (or rectangle). This is why in VS, first the mouse button is pressed, and only then the Control+ key for centered drawing.

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          Subpath @VectorStyler
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          @VectorStyler said in Schoolboy Circle Question:

          @Subpath said in Schoolboy Circle Question:

          what is meant with the context menu in this case

          When holding the Control key and then pressing the mouse button (left button on Windows), a popup menu is opened with some contextual actions.

          This gets in the way into Control+ drawing an ellipse (or rectangle). This is why in VS, first the mouse button is pressed, and only then the Control+ key for centered drawing.

          Thank you.
          But here, when i select the Cirlce Tool for Example and press
          "Ctrl" VS switch instandly to the Shape Editor Tool.
          No popup Menu appears.

          If you mean this Popup here.
          This appears when i select the Circle Tool
          and click once with the left Mouse Button
          on the Canvas and there is no need to
          press the Ctrl Button too.

          0_1669971694302_Circle-Popup.png
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          .
          Btw i have no Problem with the Way VS works to create shapes

          Win 11
          CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
          GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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            VectorStyler @Subpath
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            @Subpath On Windows is different: ctrl will activate the alternate editor, and in this case the problem is even more complicated.

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              fde101 Global Moderator
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              Control+Click for the context menu is a Mac convention from the days when Macs only included single-button mice.

              A mouse with one button simplifies things a bit in that you don't need to swap them if you use it left-handed and you don't need to wonder which button to use for a given task, but it also means that if you want something like context menus, you need some other way to access them, so the control key was selected for that purpose.

              Currently Macs tend to ship with mice that have multiple buttons (if you can call them that on the "Magic" mouse) but the shortcut method of accessing a context menu persists for the benefit of users who became accustomed to it before that became the norm.

              Windows has always used multi-button mice so this was never really a thing there.

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                VectorStyler @fde101
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                @fde101 One important aspect: it can be configured away, by changing the "Contextual Menu With Click" modifier key in preferences.

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                  Igull @b77
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                  @b77 said in Schoolboy Circle Question:

                  @Igull You need to press the Ctrl key after you click to start the ellipse.

                  Ahhhh, there we have the answer 🙂
                  That's about the only issue I have with VS - having to press a modifier key after clicking, I can't seem to get my head around that after 30-odd years of not doing that 🙂 I really do wish that was a preference LOL 🙂

                  Thanks

                  Neil

                  iMac 27" 2015 Catalina 32Gb, MacBook Pro 13" 2016 Monterey 8Gb, Mac Mini M2 2023 8Gb

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                    Igull @Subpath
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                    @Subpath

                    that just sounds too messy, especially when you don't know the size, or are actually using the circle to measure something - good to know though, thanks !

                    Neil

                    iMac 27" 2015 Catalina 32Gb, MacBook Pro 13" 2016 Monterey 8Gb, Mac Mini M2 2023 8Gb

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                      Igull @fde101
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                      @fde101 said in Schoolboy Circle Question:

                      Control+Click for the context menu is a Mac convention from the days when Macs only included single-button mice.

                      LOL, as someone who used to condone single button mice (mouses 🙂 ) way back in the days of the Apple Lisa, I have long since changed my opinion and today currently use a Logitech wireless mouse with n-million buttons, bells and whistles - a wonderful input device 🙂

                      Neil

                      iMac 27" 2015 Catalina 32Gb, MacBook Pro 13" 2016 Monterey 8Gb, Mac Mini M2 2023 8Gb

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                        fde101 Global Moderator @Igull
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                        @Igull said in Schoolboy Circle Question:

                        That's about the only issue I have with VS - having to press a modifier key after clicking, I can't seem to get my head around that after 30-odd years of not doing that 🙂 I really do wish that was a preference LOL 🙂

                        As @VectorStyler pointed out above, you can configure this: if you go into Preferences -> Modifier Keys, there is an option for "Contextual Menu with Click". This is Control by default; set it to "None" to disable the use of the modifier key for opening the context menu, which enables you to use the control key before clicking. I have found that you do need to quit and reopen VectorStyler for that particular preference to take effect (not sure if that is intentional or a bug? Either way it does work after you quit and restart the app).

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                          Subpath @fde101
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                          @fde101

                          thanks for the info

                          Win 11
                          CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                          GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                            b77 @VectorStyler
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                            @VectorStyler Maybe that's why Option is used for this in AI instead of Ctrl, to avoid the unneeded contextual menu?

                            MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                              VectorStyler @b77
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                              @b77 said in Schoolboy Circle Question:

                              @VectorStyler Maybe that's why Option is used for this in AI instead of Ctrl, to avoid the unneeded contextual menu?

                              Could be. The problem is that modifier key assignments are a bit crowded right now, and unless something is dropped it is hard to rearrange.

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                                b77 @VectorStyler
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                                @VectorStyler said in Schoolboy Circle Question:

                                @fde101 One important aspect: it can be configured away, by changing the "Contextual Menu With Click" modifier key in preferences.

                                Unfortunately trackpad users are stuck with no access to a context menu with this setting. 🤔

                                MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                                  VectorStyler @b77
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                                  @b77 said in Schoolboy Circle Question:

                                  Unfortunately trackpad users are stuck with no access to a context menu with this setting

                                  This is why the before / after mouse press differentiation of modifiers allows for covering more use cases.

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