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    • VectorStylerV Offline
      VectorStyler @Igull
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      @Igull said in Simple Rotate Question:

      If you create a line, then use the collider tool tool to lock it to another object's angle - then attempt to rotate it using the shift key, it doesn't rotate it through 45/90.

      Yes, in this case it changes the existing rotation angle to 90 degrees.
      A Convert to Curves will flatten the current rotation into the line.

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        Igull @b77
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        @b77 said in Simple Rotate Question:

        I also suggested that this is a behavior that could be a (non-default) option in Preferences.

        Yes, for me, that would be a better option - or even an added modifier - cmd+shift say ??

        Neil

        iMac 27" 2015 Catalina 32Gb, MacBook Pro 13" 2016 Monterey 8Gb, Mac Mini M2 2023 8Gb

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        • VectorStylerV Offline
          VectorStyler @b77
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          @b77 said in Simple Rotate Question:

          I also suggested that this is a behavior that could be a (non-default) option in Preferences.

          Added this to the backlog.

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            b77 @Igull
            last edited by b77

            @Igull If I'm not misunderstanding something, in version 1.1.080
            enabling 'Relative Angle Constrain' in Prefs > Editing Options 1
            does what you (and me) asked for.

            MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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              Igull @b77
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              @b77 said in Simple Rotate Question:

              @Igull If I'm not misunderstanding something, in version 1.1.080
              enabling 'Relative Angle Constrain' in Prefs > Editing Options 1
              does what you (and me) asked for.

              Yes, it does :-). Works fine too !

              However, wouldn't it have been better to just have a modifier key - say cmd+shift (or ctrl+shift for the winfolks) to do relative constrain or just shift to force it to orthogonal ? Having an option in prefs (Settings ??) seems a bit clunky ??

              Just my thought.

              Neil

              iMac 27" 2015 Catalina 32Gb, MacBook Pro 13" 2016 Monterey 8Gb, Mac Mini M2 2023 8Gb

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              • VectorStylerV Offline
                VectorStyler @Igull
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                @Igull said in Simple Rotate Question:

                wouldn't it have been better to just have a modifier key

                We are a bit overloaded with modifier keys already 😞

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                  b77
                  last edited by b77

                  @Igull said in Simple Rotate Question:

                  Yes, it does :-). Works fine too !

                  However, wouldn't it have been better to just have a modifier key…

                  I would just prefer the 'relative' option to be on by default.

                  @Igull You are doing technical drawings, IIRC.

                  How many times do you need the fixed step rotation instead
                  of the relative?

                  MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                  • IgullI Offline
                    Igull @b77
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                    @b77 said in Simple Rotate Question:

                    How many times do you need the fixed step rotation instead
                    of the relative?

                    TBH, that's probably laziness on my part, but having both options available via a modifier key would save me having to use the collision tool to force the object back to orthogonal then use the rotate option - so, simply holding (say) the command key down would be relative - without, would force the object back to orthogonal.

                    If it's a binary situation on modifier keys (surely a person can never have sufficient modifier keys LOL), then yes, having relative on by default is probably the better option.

                    I fully realise that having more modifiers is creating a stick for Csaba's back, but it makes the delight of using and modifying VS such a great experience - once you have nailed down your own preferences and saved them, what a HUGE time saver it is. I do find myself going back to tweak my settings and improving the experience even more.

                    May the fourth be with you 🙂

                    Neil

                    iMac 27" 2015 Catalina 32Gb, MacBook Pro 13" 2016 Monterey 8Gb, Mac Mini M2 2023 8Gb

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                    • b77B Offline
                      b77 @Igull
                      last edited by b77

                      @Igull Yes, a modifier for this would be nice. I don't consider it laziness, it's a fast workflow.

                      But in my mind Cmd is connected to editing, not transforming an object.
                      And it doesn't have a direct equivalent on Windows keyboards.

                      @VectorStyler Could Ctrl-Shift for orthogonal rotation work on both Mac and Win?

                      Btw…

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                      May the 4th be with you. 🙂

                      MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                        VectorStyler @b77
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                        @b77 said in Simple Rotate Question:

                        Could Ctrl-Shift for orthogonal rotation work on both Mac and Win

                        Added this to the backlog, I will check if this is possible.

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                          Igull @VectorStyler
                          last edited by Igull

                          @VectorStyler said in Simple Rotate Question:

                          @b77 said in Simple Rotate Question:

                          Could Ctrl-Shift for orthogonal rotation work on both Mac and Win

                          Added this to the backlog, I will check if this is possible.

                          Still prefer command on Mac, could use ctrl on PC 'though. Ctrl has never been anything other than contextual on mac - it's also far far away in another galaxy - right on the edge of all the keyboards 🙂

                          Neil

                          iMac 27" 2015 Catalina 32Gb, MacBook Pro 13" 2016 Monterey 8Gb, Mac Mini M2 2023 8Gb

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                            Igull @b77
                            last edited by

                            @b77 said in Simple Rotate Question:

                            May the 4th be with you.

                            ☺ ☺ ☝

                            iMac 27" 2015 Catalina 32Gb, MacBook Pro 13" 2016 Monterey 8Gb, Mac Mini M2 2023 8Gb

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