Problems around the corner

Igull

I'm having some problems with corners, I'm so used to just selecting the corner node I want, then applying a corner radius value to it - not having to pull up one of two specific corner tools then adjusting by dragging - that's fine for arty types, but I need a specific value and I really don't want to be shifting to another tool to do it.
When I select a single corner node using the shape editor tool, then set a corner value, all the corner nodes get this value applied - and I can find a modifier to just do the one I selected
I have read the manual and can't find an answer, sorry.
I just know the answer is out there

TIA

Neil

Ingolf

There is a corner input field in the context toolbar.

Subpath

@Igull

it depends on the State of the Corner nodes

if all Nodes are in blue, changing a value work for all Nodes
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if one or more Nodes (you could select it with Shift key)
in orange then changing the Value work only for this Nodes
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this work in Shape Panel and in Contex Toolbar
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Subpath

@Igull said in Problems around the corner:

I just know the answer is out there

yes, by swarm intelligence

Ingolf

Am I right?

Igull

@Subpath said in Problems around the corner:

if one or more Nodes (you could select it with Shift key)
in orange then changing the Value work only for this Nodes

Not here they don't

Normally I would use the shape editor to select the specific node, but it seems you have to use the transform tool - that selects the whole object, then you can select the specific corner (in orange like yours) and apply a value, but it still applies that to all the corners

Ahhhhhhh, I just noticed something, you are using the shape panel and NOT the corner panel !!! Why would you use the shape panel instead of the corner panel ????
It works with the shape panel as long as you use the transform tool, but NOT with the corner panel ! And you have to use the transform tool and NOT the shape editor tool - and you're using the shape panel !!!

LOL, this just seems like an overly confusing mess - and makes no sense - or is it me That is until you look at the corner panel and find out that it isn't the corner value you are adjusting, but a start value (or an end value) - now this is even MORE confusing

I would suggest that simply using the shape editor tool and clicking a node and giving it a corner value in the corner panel (and context area) should do just that - and only to the selected node(s) !

Neil

Subpath

@Igull
@VectorStyler

i notice the Corner Panel once but then i have forget it

in my tries i was using the Corner Tool

it seems that the corner panel has a bug ?
As long as you have not moved a corner node
all not moved nodes are changed when you enter a value in the corner panel

the Shape Panel and the Context Toolbar Field on the other hand work as expected

Here a Video

Ingolf

Just for the fun of it, a bit of comparison with Affinity:

Designer

First half: editing shape
Second half: converted to curves

Also not best practice, but the clean interface makes it okay easy to deal with.

VectorStyler

@Igull An additional click on the corner knob should give an orange outline.
Then the corner is selected and the amount can be changed.
This is how it works here: https://recordit.co/KHETH1EA1K

Was there any customization of the modifier keys?

Igull

@Subpath said in Problems around the corner:

@Igull said in Problems around the corner:

I just know the answer is out there

yes, by swarm intelligence

Ha ha

You're suggesting that we have the intellect of a bee then - probably correct in my case

Igull

@Ingolf said in Problems around the corner:

Am I right?

Yes, ok on the context bar input field, that's what I use generally, but was attempting to investigate more when the corner panel and shape panel started to cause me issues

Igull

@Subpath said in Problems around the corner:

it seems that the corner panel has a bug ?

Yes, that was one of the issues I noticed.

Igull

@VectorStyler said in Problems around the corner:

@Igull An additional click on the corner knob should give an orange outline.
Then the corner is selected and the amount can be changed.
This is how it works here: https://recordit.co/KHETH1EA1K

OK, got that, but you are using a specific corner tool to simply set a corner value. I feel that this is a bit of an overkill and TBH, unnecessary. You commonly have either the transform tool or the shape editor tool in use and having to then go to yet another tool seems pointless.
If using the transform tool, you have to initially select the object, then select a corner point that you wish to change - that's two operations when it only needs to be one. I feel the transform tool should be for the complete object and not a single node.
If using the shape editor tool (the correct tool IMHO), you would simply select a node and apply a value (or a selection of nodes). Currently, if using the shape editor tool, it transforms all nodes to corners.

/rant

Was there any customization of the modifier keys?

Not to my knowledge. TBH, you really don't need a modifier (unless for removing an applied corner of course - but then you can simply set the corner value to zero ?).

I fully realise that VS is different (and better really in many respects to some of the other apps, but occasionally goes over the top on a feature that really isn't required (for my selfish purposes at least LOL )

Neil

VectorStyler

@Igull said in Problems around the corner:

but you are using a specific corner tool to simply set a corner value. I feel that this is a bit of an overkill and TBH, unnecessary.

I will make it work with the Node selection also.

Ingolf

Hi all

I have made two requests this week that @VectorStyler put in the backlog

single (selected) corner values should be adjusted when selected with the shape editor (here)
corner editor tool should be invoked correctly and directly when a node is selected and the corner tool is activated via a keyboard shortcut (here)

Selecting one or more nodes now and activating the corner editor with mouse works as expected.

So, I expect that eventually this will work for me on an object (that is not a built in shape):

I activate the node editor with A
I select one or more nodes
I enter a value in an input field and only selected corners are adjusted
OR
I press C (my personal keyboard shortcut for the corner editor) and only the selected corners are adjusted (with the mouse) and I then press A to return to the shape editor

Subpath

@Igull said in Problems around the corner:

@Subpath said in Problems around the corner:

@Igull said in Problems around the corner:

I just know the answer is out there

yes, by swarm intelligence

Ha ha

You're suggesting that we have the intellect of a bee then - probably correct in my case

Well, there are many other species that
live in large groups (swarms), even humans.
So it is your choice

Igull

@Ingolf

Yes, I'd go along with all of that - not sure how I missed your original post, sorry.

Neil

Igull

@VectorStyler said in Problems around the corner:

I will make it work with the Node selection also.

As they say in the movies, 'make it so'

Excellent, thanks for that!

Neil