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    • AyoA Offline
      Ayo
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      Snapping to the node locations doesn't seem to work:

      Two irregular polygons
      No other objects on the canvas

      Setting:

      • Allow Snapping
      • Snap to Points
      • All Layers

      https://recordit.co/3ZyRb025TT

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        Subpath @Ayo
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        @Ayo

        I tried it, I think it works better for irregular shapes
        if you set the tolerance value higher
        try a value at 15 and higher, which works better here

        in your video, your tolerance was 8

        Win 11
        CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
        GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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          Subpath
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          must correct me

          after another try it doesnt work
          e.g. use a regulary shape (rectangle)
          on a irregulary shape work

          the other way around not
          Here a Video

          Win 11
          CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
          GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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          • AyoA Offline
            Ayo @Subpath
            last edited by

            @Subpath said in Snap to Points doesn't seem to work:

            use a regulary shape

            Vectorstyler forces me to make Mondrians?

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            • VectorStylerV Offline
              VectorStyler @Ayo
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              @Ayo I will try to replicate this

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                Subpath @Ayo
                last edited by Subpath

                @Ayo said in Snap to Points doesn't seem to work:

                @Subpath said in Snap to Points doesn't seem to work:

                use a regulary shape

                Vectorstyler forces me to make Mondrians?

                i have a Mondrian Creator for such tasks 🙂

                And here a pretty good Documentation where
                Artist and Scientist try to recreate a Mondrian Paint.
                Can say its not a easy task.
                Here the Link to the Docu
                Is in German but you could use automatic subtitles in englisch
                its call "Das Geheimis der Meister", "The secrets of the Master"

                Pic of Mondrian Creator (its free, found it on Internet once)
                0_1698350646262_Mondrian Creator.png

                Win 11
                CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                  Igull @Ayo
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                  @Ayo

                  I'm pretty picky when it comes to point snapping, it's imperative for me 🙂
                  I just checked my setup and it works perfectly - I've always used a snap tolerance of 3.

                  https://recordit.co/OkKc0Czsn5

                  BTW, I assume we're talking v111 here ?

                  Neil

                  iMac 27" 2015 Catalina 32Gb, MacBook Pro 13" 2016 Monterey 8Gb, Mac Mini M2 2023 8Gb

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                  • b77B Offline
                    b77 @Igull
                    last edited by

                    @Igull Ayo reported this with 1.2 Beta.

                    MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                      Ayo @b77
                      last edited by

                      @b77 said in Snap to Points doesn't seem to work:

                      Ayo reported this with 1.2 Beta.

                      Correct

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                        Subpath @Igull
                        last edited by

                        @Igull

                        My attempts were also with the latest 1.2 beta

                        Win 11
                        CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                        GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                          VectorStyler @Ayo
                          last edited by

                          @Ayo @b77 @Subpath

                          I think the different here could be a polygon to point versus point to point snapping.

                          To snap a specific point of a polygon to another point, hover over the polygon point first until an X shows and then drag from that point.

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                            Ayo @VectorStyler
                            last edited by

                            @VectorStyler
                            No X showing up. Using Transform tool.
                            https://recordit.co/Z9eM85anEv

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                              Subpath @VectorStyler
                              last edited by Subpath

                              @VectorStyler

                              got it,
                              but is near to impoosible to get the "x" Sign for a point
                              wenn the selection Frame is close by that point
                              see at 0:25
                              Here the Video

                              Win 11
                              CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                              GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                                Ayo @Subpath
                                last edited by Ayo

                                @VectorStyler and others.

                                Found it! (But partly solved)

                                The missing X-cross put me on the track and reminded me whether I changed something in the settings that caused this.

                                Well, I turned off the setting: Selection > Detect Hovering Node. Because I would like to get rid of the X-cross. Unnecessary visual noise around my pointer.

                                Detect Hovering with a visual x-mark on or off should not affect the node to node snapping option. I can work better without the useless X signal, but now I'm unfortunately stuck with it again.

                                Future feature wish:
                                Make the 'Detect Hovering Node' setting valid as a visual indicator only. After all, it says 'detect'. Leave snapping in the snapping options.

                                If you want to use a precision-like tool cross, use a + shaped cross mark. Compatible with y-and y-axes based artboard for positioning and symbolically positive.

                                Please no x shape. Not compatible with y-and y-axes and symbolically used to indicate the absence of something or concept of negation or NO! The opposite of what we're looking for.

                                Idea
                                Turn this setting into the setting: 'Use precision cursor'. When snapping to points on, it will automatically stick to the points like it does now.

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                                  VectorStyler @Ayo
                                  last edited by

                                  @Ayo I will try to improve this. One thing that could be added (in the future) is to snap any cusp node of a shape with a snapping option enabled.

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                                    Ayo @VectorStyler
                                    last edited by

                                    @VectorStyler said in Snap to Points doesn't seem to work:

                                    One thing that could be added (in the future) is to snap any cusp node of a shape with a snapping option enabled.

                                    I don't understand this.
                                    Why only cusp nodes?

                                    I JUST DON'T WANT ANY CLUTTER UNDER MY CURSOR WITH SNAP TO POINT ON!

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                                    • VectorStylerV Offline
                                      VectorStyler @Ayo
                                      last edited by

                                      @Ayo Sorry for the misunderstanding, I was not referring to any symbol under the cursor.

                                      I was thinking of the shape that is moved, which part of that shape to be snapping to the target point? Should the whole shape? any node? or just cusp nodes?

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                                        Subpath @Ayo
                                        last edited by Subpath

                                        @Ayo

                                        one way i found to use "Snap to point" without
                                        the "x" Indicator.

                                        is select all nodes of the Shape with the Node Tool
                                        and move the that selection then with the Node Tool...
                                        this way "Snap to Points" will work without a "x"
                                        by now. You have to convert the shape into curves
                                        of course.

                                        Here a Video

                                        the "x" indicator may have some uses
                                        but i am also no friend of it, find it distracting

                                        Win 11
                                        CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                                        GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                                          Ayo @Subpath
                                          last edited by

                                          @Subpath said in Snap to Points doesn't seem to work:

                                          selection then with the Node Tool

                                          Selection with the Node Tool works fine without x-cross on this simple free-standing test example. But as soon as a document and form becomes more complicated and/or more layered, you are forced to select all points one by one, which is a cumbersome way. Otherwise you also take points that belong to other objects.

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                                            b77 @Ayo
                                            last edited by b77

                                            @Ayo said in Snap to Points doesn't seem to work:

                                            you are forced to select all points one by one, which is a cumbersome way.

                                            When in node editing mode and an object is selected, press Cmd-A and all its nodes will be selected.

                                            Also: I hope 'Select Nodes from All Objects' is disabled in Settings > Path Editor.

                                            MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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