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      William Kansepa @B-Vs-V
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      @Pat said in Editable text after a Boolean operation:

      @Boldline Well, yes & no, ADesigner can do it. This would lead to complete editable design and would open many possibilities ☺

      This is also doable in Adobe Illustrator.

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        VectorStyler @B-Vs-V
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        @Pat It remains editable if groups are used: group first and then select the compound shape mode.

        I will try to make it so with compound shapes also.

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          B-Vs-V @VectorStyler
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          @VectorStyler Thanks. It works indeed by grouping the shape & the text. The text remains editable. However, after having applied the boolean operation (minus), I can't apply any effect to it (e.g., Repeater) or at least it is not visible:

          0_1718537748259_r1.jpg

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            VectorStyler @B-Vs-V
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            @Pat said in Editable text after a Boolean operation:

            However, after having applied the boolean operation (minus), I can't apply any effect to it (e.g., Repeater

            I will try to replicate this.

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              William Kansepa
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              Affinity's Erase blending mode can also give you interesting results...
              Steps:

              1. Create a filled rectangle
              2. Type some text on top of the rectangle
              3. Group the two items
              4. Control + select the text and select the Erase blend mode in the Layers panel

              Notice that you now have a Boolean-like result *(a cut-out effect)*and the text is still editable.
              This result is similar on both vector and images.

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                William Kansepa
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                Adobe Illustrator:
                Steps:

                1. Create a filled rectangle
                2. Type some text on top of the rectangle
                3. Group the two items
                4. Control + select the text and select and reduce opacity to 0 or 1 (depends on app version)
                5. Transparency panel>select in Knockout checkbox.

                Notice that you now have a Boolean-like result *(a cut-out effect)*and the text is still editable.
                This result is similar on both vector and images.

                The other method only works on vectors:
                Steps:

                1. Create a filled rectangle
                2. Type some text on top of the rectangle
                3. Select both items and Alt+click Minus Front from the Pathfinder panel

                Notice that you now have a Boolean-like result *(a cut-out effect)*and the text is still editable.

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                  B-Vs-V @William Kansepa
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                  @William-Kansepa The "erase" function is indeed interesting, but here I've tried to use VS to create a fully editable design with two mutually exclusive containers filled with symbols (editable) with the Repeater function (editable), like this:

                  0_1718599270993_r.jpg

                  but this is not fully editable for one of the containers. If I want to modify the design, I have to start all over again. What I can't manage to do is create two mutually exclusive containers that are fully editable, and my idea only works on this condition ☺

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                    VectorStyler @B-Vs-V
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                    @Pat said in Editable text after a Boolean operation:

                    However, after having applied the boolean operation (minus), I can't apply any effect to it (e.g., Repeater) or at least it is not visible

                    This one I cannot replicate. Can you send me the image with the combined text and the repeater? Thanks!

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                      B-Vs-V @VectorStyler
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                      @VectorStyler I didn't save the last file but I just recreated one (two artboards). However, I've had some VS crashes and I haven't finished the one on the right. File sent.

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                        VectorStyler @B-Vs-V
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                        @Pat Got the file. This case resulted from creating a composite shape from two repeater objects (with shapes). This will not combine the second repeater content.

                        I think the desired result can be achieved by first creating the composite shape (solid fill) and then adding a repeater.

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                          B-Vs-V @VectorStyler
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                          @VectorStyler It is what I did yesterday but it did not work. I wanted to test both ways, first making the repeater (left artboard) or the compound shape (right artboard).

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                            VectorStyler @B-Vs-V
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                            @Pat

                            I attached a simple example of a compound shape with text (first) and then a repeater added on that.

                            0_1718691937777_combinedtext2.vstyler

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                              B-Vs-V @VectorStyler
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                              @VectorStyler Thank you ☺
                              Indeed, it worked on the text. When I tried it, it was as if the symbols disappeared. The layers (Layer panel) were still there but as empty without object. It would be really great if you could enable the history if it's not too much to ask ☺
                              However, I don't think I'll be able to do what I'd imagined because this way of doing the design doesn't create two mutually exclusive containers and I can't see a way of doing that.

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                                B-Vs-V @VectorStyler
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                                @VectorStyler Maybe the issue with my tests comes from having to apply two different repeater to these two objects with several 'symbol' objects.

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                                  VectorStyler @B-Vs-V
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                                  @Pat said in Editable text after a Boolean operation:

                                  with several 'symbol' objects

                                  Multiple symbols can also be added in the modal repeater options view (second button in the panel).

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                                    B-Vs-V @VectorStyler
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                                    @VectorStyler yes indeed, but I always place all the symbols on the artboard and select everything (including the object) to apply the repeater feature.

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                                      VectorStyler @B-Vs-V
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                                      @Pat said in Editable text after a Boolean operation:

                                      symbols on the artboard and select everything (including the object) to apply the repeater feature

                                      That should also work. Send me a file with the state just before creating the repeater with multiple symbols.

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                                        B-Vs-V @VectorStyler
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                                        @VectorStyler if you go back in history of the file I sent you today, you should get to this point. Let me know if it's ok ☺

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                                          VectorStyler @B-Vs-V
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                                          @Pat Still, seems to be working here: 0_1718700832490_repeatertest1.vstyler

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                                            B-Vs-V @VectorStyler
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                                            @VectorStyler No, I can't manage to generate two containers with different symbols after a boolean operation.

                                            Either I'm not applying the right steps and, as it seems logical to me, I don't understand my error, or the order of the steps is important (or the part of the interface where the action is performed) is important, like when I couldn't define an object as a symbol because there was a bug in one of the ways of doing it.

                                            I'm a bit frustrated now ☺ 😁 ...so I'll leave the testing for later.

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