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    Impressions about CJK implementation (1.0.023)

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    • VectorStylerV Offline
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      @861475_VctSt Send me a link to the cloud files. Thanks!

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        The above post is
        It should have been uploaded to "CJK, Japanese observation (1.0.024 ~)".
        Next time, I will create a new topic. Please read as it is.

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          said in Impressions about CJK implementation (1.0.023):

          x)
          issue: Blanks are entered when using the input mode selection keys (eiji, kana).
          Corrective action: It should be corrected so that blanks are not input when switching the input mode. (Cf. Mov)
          Other previous issues have been fixed.

          I had overlooked it, but I reported it again as a bug via email.

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            @861475_VctSt I will try to replicate and fix this

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              @VectorStyler
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              Thanks.
              t's working properly.

              My years of frustration have been resolved.
              😊

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                I decided to test this. Can report pre-conversion shows up as blanks momentarily in Windows 11 also and input is rather clunky. This is with version 1.3.011

                Several issues:

                1. Text input is lagging in general with output

                2. Fonts can't be changed when textbox is empty. I don't remember this being an issue in the past.

                3. Textbox can't be activated sometimes and even when appearing to be activated, doesn't take input (with the text caret icon visible with mouse).

                4. The user has to look for the IME conversion window to the lower left of the program to see which candidates are available. It should be appearing closer to the text.

                5. The conversion box moves back up towards the text if you try to adjust pre-converted text. This isn't true if starting a new sentence at the end of a line.

                6. If there is a delay with converting a character, if you are still typing after that (say entering a "."), it completely misses that input and so the next word/character has to be redone.

                Video showing all the problems (has audio):

                https://1drv.ms/v/c/110a6c79485f87e5/IQCksyZcydqUQ5U-xDVe-D88AWZ28xBa54ZwsZWNIcB1Sj0?e=UsqE9a

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                  @debraspicher

                  I watched the video. With my language skills, I couldn't catch what was being said and couldn't fully understand it.

                  In short, it's about IME-related behavior being unstable, right?
                  I understand that the Japanese IME issue was resolved in 1.3.011, and I'm reasonably satisfied with that.

                  Is the issue you're presenting from 1.3.011 onward, or was it present before that?

                  Are the following settings configured?
                  ・Preferences > Applications > East Asian Options > ON
                  ・Character Styles > Script > CJK

                  These settings are essential beforehand when working with Japanese text. It's also highly recommended to create Japanese-compatible character styles. On top of that, I suggest creating a template that includes these settings and working from it.

                  @Vectorstyler
                  I raised this issue in April 2021—five years ago. I'm a user in the specific environment of "Japanese." Furthermore, no other users reported this issue. Therefore, at that time, I judged that improving this issue offered little benefit to overall development and held off requesting a fix until VS development stabilized.
                  It's an issue that could be resolved by me removing a single space.

                  Five years have passed since then. VS development seems to have entered a stable phase, so I resubmitted this issue and believed it had been resolved. However, due to the small number of Japanese users, I haven't been able to gather other opinions. Let's continue monitoring this matter.

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                    Japanese Typesetting Reference Materials (Since I might forget myself)
                    📎
                    https://
                    www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/?lang=ja#legend_of_table_3

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                      @debraspicher @861475_vctst I will try to replicate these and fix if possible.

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                        @861475_VctSt お返事にありがとう~ その設定でもう一度見ます。

                        しかし、IMEでなく英語入力したらある問題もみえるし、リポートすることも必要だと思います。

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