Difficulty clicking a second time to get a cusp node - ends path instead
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Assuming I'm still correct that clicking a second time on a node on an active path will make it a cusp node, I still struggle with it ending the path instead... Here is a video showing this
When using the pen tool, there's a certain speed of efficiency I want to go at, so the shortcut to click a second time on a node to make is cusp is great, but if I have to slow down and make sure it's dead-center, it negates the efficiency. I'm still advocating for a SLIGHT magnetic snap - very faint, just enough to guide it in during speedy pen tool usage
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@Boldline I removed my the previous post, this feature already exists:
Adjust Preferences -> Tolerance -> "Node Editor Click" value.
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@VectorStyler ok thanks - so if I increase the tolerance, that will make it more likely to automatically do what I want?
As an added thought on this tolerance menu - it would be nice to have a"return to default" button added at some point so it could be easily reset without having to reset everything in preferences overall
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@Boldline said in Difficulty clicking a second time to get a cusp node - ends path instead:
@VectorStyler ok thanks - so if I increase the tolerance, that will make it more likely to automatically do what I want?
Should do that, but if there are some additional issues with the node clicking sensitivity, let me know.
As an added thought on this tolerance menu - it would be nice to have a"return to default" button added at some point so it could be easily reset without having to reset everything in preferences overall
Yes, and I think this goes for the whole Preferences, separately for each page.
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@VectorStyler said in Difficulty clicking a second time to get a cusp node - ends path instead:
Yes, and I think this goes for the whole Preferences, separately for each page.
Absolutely! I know that would make it easier for us to troubleshoot on your behalf so you know where to look specifically for a preferences issue and I also think it would let me experiment more with settings knowing I could easily reset a section if I got far off course from where I needed them to be
@VectorStyler said in Difficulty clicking a second time to get a cusp node - ends path instead:
Should do that, but if there are some additional issues with the node clicking sensitivity, let me know.
I will experiment some and get back to you
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@VectorStyler I was playing around more with the tolerance levels in preferences but I seem to still have issues getting the second click to turn the node to cusp to work correctly. In this video from today, I set the preferences back to total default and tried to make it work - then I tried to make the tolerance higher, then lower, and each time it failed to work as it should.
Is there a setting in default mode I need to change to get the slight magnetic snap to work correctly?
I had it available in my custom preferences, but in default preferences mode, I hover and move the cursor over the last node I made and it does not give any indication of anything... no blue circle, etc...UPDATE: I tried clicking the snapping options icon in the far upper right top corner of the UI and it would not open the panel for me - not sure if that's an issue with just me or a bug.
I opened the panel through the panels window and checked "snap to points" and that is essentially giving me what I need. Is this the best way to do this? Even then I'm finding it's hit or miss - when i click on the last node - sometimes it makes a cusp, other times it ends the path line...
Here is another video where I am trying the same thing but with the "snap to points" checked...
Also on a side note, you can see at the 11-13 sec portion, that the line likes to do a strange freak out routine - this has been brought up in other discussions but while I saw it here I figured I'd mention it.
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@Boldline said in Difficulty clicking a second time to get a cusp node - ends path instead:
Is there a setting in default mode I need to change to get the slight magnetic snap to work correctly?
No other setting for this feature. I will try to replicate the issue and find a solution.
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@VectorStyler I updated my prior post after you saw it.
Question - should the blue dot with slight magnetic pull be on by default with the default preferences? It seems strange that I had it with the customized pref installed but going back to default loses it.
If I adjust the tolerance for the node editor click, as you suggested before, would increasing it mean I'm increasing the tolerance and making it easier to have it snap?
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@VectorStyler Last post for the moment on this topic!
Before swapping back to my customized preferences, I tried to go slowly over the last point to get it to show the magnetic pull or make that blue circle like it has in the past to no avail.
Are we asking the pen tool to do two very different tasks with the same function? Does double tapping the node equal an end of the path? or a continuation of the path but with a cusp node there?
I've always thought the latter and use the command key modifier key when clicking to intentionally end a path. Is there a better way?Is anyone else having this problem? Because it was working in the past but now it's not and it renders the pen tool almost useless to me at the moment...
UPDATE: I decided to test things out on the intel machine using the current build and it worked a lot better with my custom preferences even.... I'm going to do some more testing
I'm curious about the functionality of holding down the pen tool click and the path becomes straight for as long as the click is held down - is this meant to make a straight line? is there another purpose? I saw if i clicked a third time on a node it would erase it... but I did not see a way to keep the straight temporary path when the second click on the last node is held down.
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@Boldline said in Difficulty clicking a second time to get a cusp node - ends path instead:
should the blue dot with slight magnetic pull be on by default with the default preferences?
Yes, it should be on by default.
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@VectorStyler I seem to be having much better luck using the mouse to make the cusp nodes and the issue seems to be more with my stylus I'm using. I'm going to look more into that
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@Boldline said in Difficulty clicking a second time to get a cusp node - ends path instead:
issue seems to be more with my stylus I'm using
yes, it could be the stylus / touch handling. I will test this with a tablet.
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@VectorStyler I have a small Huion screen tablet with stylus I use for the intel machine and a wacom cintiq with a different stylus I use for the M1 Mac. The huion tablet seemed fine with both mouse clicking and with the stylus. The wacom stylus on the cintiq is where I had the most trouble. My driver is up to date and I calibrated the stylus again - nothing has improved yet - now playing with the settings some and increasing the tolerance in VS as well.
Even with the tolerance in VS set to 10 for example, I have to get the stylus to hit dead on the last node and even then it's hit or miss.UPDATE: It seems to me that the issue is with the stylus and not with the tolerance. I bumped the tolerance up to 25 and tried with the mouse and intentionally went far off course trying to make it mess up and it still made cusp nodes as it should lol. When I did the same with the stylus, it was still difficult to get them to not end the path even when I was dead on the last node....
nothing is noticeably different when I use the stylus and adjust the tolerance to normal or high levels - the result is always the same. It is noticeable when the mouse is used instead.
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I restarted my computer completely because occasionally my USB wireless mouse stops functioning in part... I wondered if that was also affecting the stylus because the cintiq uses usb to control the wireless stylus - but that did not solve anything.
I own a few different wacom styluses so I tried two different ones and had the same bad result.
I'm just trying to help narrow down the issue. I'm also trying to remember when things first went poorly and if I was doing anything specific during that time.
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@Boldline said in Difficulty clicking a second time to get a cusp node - ends path instead:
different wacom styluses so I tried two different ones and had the same bad result
I think there could be a precision issue when using touch / pen to point to nodes.
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@VectorStyler said in Difficulty clicking a second time to get a cusp node - ends path instead:
I think there could be a precision issue when using touch / pen to point to nodes.
That seems to be the case - however, I did not seem to have issues using the huion tablet and corresponding huion stylus on the intel machine... just with the wacom stylus on the wacom cintiq. Would it be an issue with some and not others?
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@Boldline said in Difficulty clicking a second time to get a cusp node - ends path instead:
Would it be an issue with some and not others?
Cannot be sure, but I have a Wacom, so once I get there I will test it.
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@VectorStyler Would it make sense to have the last node that is getting hovered over and then clicked a second time on to make it a cusp, change color or have a subtle hint that it is engaged? Right now when I hover and slowly move my cursor over the last node, there's no indication of anything - what if that node changed color or a small thin outer circle was added - something to visually indicate an action could take place there.
