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      Subpath
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      Inserting Nodes with the "+" Key Behavior

      As much i try to understand the reason how VS
      works when inserting Nodes with the "+" Key.
      I haven't found any sense.

      As i am coming from CorelDraw i am used to
      that all Nodes will keep selected if i have
      insert a new Node via the "+"-key.

      And the way Corel does this, makes more sense
      in eyes and maybe for other Users to. So it would
      be nice VS will work this way too and keeping
      all Nodes selected.

      So i can divide a curve/Shape further without
      to have to reselect the Nodes again.

      Here a Video Example how it in Corel and VS works

      0_1677483392237_VS-Pic.png

      0_1677483409249_Corel-pic.png

      Win 11
      CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
      GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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        b77 @Subpath
        last edited by b77

        @Subpath If you want to edit the newly added nodes in Corel, selecting them out of
        all the nodes is needed, which in this case and others is not easy.

        So it looks like Corel's behavior is "optimized" just for the adding of nodes, while
        the VS behavior is optimized for quick editing of the newly added node(s) without
        having to re-select them.

        MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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          Subpath @b77
          last edited by Subpath

          @b77 said in Inserting Nodes with the "+" Key Behavior:

          while
          the VS behavior is optimized for quick editing of the newly added node(s) without
          having to re-select them.

          Understand such a behaviour in this case.
          0_1677487903734_Node-1.png

          But not really in this case.
          0_1677487940356_Node-2.png

          I use inserting nodes with the "+" key mainly because
          I want to divide a path (into several subpaths,
          in a whole or at a Part.)
          So the Corel method suits better to my needs and wishes.

          Would be nice if VS would also offer a way like this.

          Win 11
          CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
          GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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            b77 @Subpath
            last edited by b77

            @Subpath If the user's needs are just adding new nodes but not move/scale/rotate them, Corel's behaviour is
            indeed faster (you don't need to press Cmd-A to select all the nodes for successive additions of nodes).

            If you want to edit the added nodes afterwards, VS auto-selecting them is much better especially if they alternate
            with nodes you don't want to edit (your second image), and having to hit Cmd-A before each new addition
            is a minor effort.

            MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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              Subpath @b77
              last edited by Subpath

              @b77

              i know "you can always get what you want" as the
              Rolling stones once have sung πŸ™‚

              But i may wish πŸ™‚

              I stumble often upon this case and it annoys me a little,
              that's the reason why I wrote this post.

              One can see Cmd-A as a minor thing
              but "+", "Cmd-A, "+", "Cmd-A" ect. is not really so much fun.
              And if you want to divide only a part of a curve,
              Cmd-A is not helpful.

              Win 11
              CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
              GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                b77 @Subpath
                last edited by b77

                @Subpath Sure, for just a part of the nodes drag-to-select is needed.
                I prefer having to drag-to-select / Cmd-A at the adding nodes stage
                instead of tedious selection of alternate nodes afterwards.

                In any case, this behaviour can be relegated to a Prefs setting β€” I'm just
                wondering if it's not overkill or just "pushing" for a reorganizing of the
                Preferences where most tools or commands have their individual checkboxes
                for settings and behaviors. Which… might be a good thing after all? πŸ€”

                MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                  Subpath @b77
                  last edited by Subpath

                  @b77

                  Drag-to-select is way i do it in VS already in both cases.

                  Dont know if this does need an additional setting in the preferences.
                  Because a Shift-"+" could also enable this kind of divide.

                  Win 11
                  CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                  GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                    b77 @Subpath
                    last edited by b77

                    @Subpath Do you mean Shift-+ should add nodes and select the new and the old node(s)?
                    If so, that could be an alternative solution.

                    MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                      Subpath @b77
                      last edited by Subpath

                      @b77 said in Inserting Nodes with the "+" Key Behavior:

                      Do you mean Shift-+ should add nodes and select the new and the old node(s)

                      yes, Shift-+ could inserting nodes the corel way
                      as shown in the video above
                      (keeping Nodes selected)

                      Win 11
                      CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                      GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                        VectorStyler @Subpath
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                        @Subpath Yes, there is a difference here.
                        In VS, only the new nodes are selected (by design), and there can be multiple uses of this (@b77).

                        Do you need to select all nodes for this case? that is possible.

                        I can add this to the backlog, to have a settings to keep the original nodes also selected.

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                          Subpath @VectorStyler
                          last edited by Subpath

                          @VectorStyler said in Inserting Nodes with the "+" Key Behavior:

                          Do you need to select all nodes for this case? that is possible.

                          yes, because i often use it for divide parts of path
                          and also to divide a whole Shape
                          i like this kind of behaviour from CorelDraw
                          and have no really needs for the VS way to do this

                          I can add this to the backlog, to have a settings to keep the original nodes also selected.

                          this would be nice and helpful
                          if the old selected nodes and the newly
                          created nodes remained selected

                          Win 11
                          CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                          GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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