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    • b77B Offline
      b77 @syllie
      last edited by b77

      @syllie Got it. I thought it's something related to the course itself — "planning document". 😆

      In any case, I guess self-adjusting the tracing style could help you get closer to the best
      result faster, and also having smooth antialiased lines in the bitmap (if possible).

      MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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        b77 @syllie
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        @syllie said in Trace of line drawings:

        One of the tools that is super-handy is the 'replace color' (or AI's recolor artwork)
        function as you can imagine a lot of these kind of pattern collections implement
        several colourways.

        Btw, you can define color styles in the current document, then editing them in the Styles panel
        changes the color of all objects with that color style: https://recordit.co/DgIcW3Ogxi

        MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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        • syllieS Offline
          syllie @b77
          last edited by syllie

          @b77 Yes, but that is not exactly what 'we' want.

          Typically a collection is created with a limited palette (4-18 colours). Colour groups come in handy.

          Then the recolor artwork tool is used to shuffle colour combinations within that pallete around for all objects in the design. The purpose is not to 'edit' colours persay, but also to just to shuffle the ones that we have already created for a collection around (background from light yellow, to pink, motif pink to light yellow etc). It is the ideal way to experiment with colourways.

          • Locking a colour in place (when the combination is 'almost' right) is very handy in AI too.

          • The recolor tool can also be used to consolidate print colours, for example if an original design has 12 colours to group and minimize the number of colors used in a design when it is printed on different medium (for example tissue paper allowing only 4 colours).

          • Yes we can 'select similar' (with multiple clicks) and then reassign colors from presets/palettes but you need to use intermediate colours if you want to move yellow to another object/shape for example. Recolor is MADE for this.

          • Yes we can edit (global) colours - but we have the colours already in our palette

          https://youtu.be/BuvbK_MPuYA?t=167

          Note:

          • a 'collection' is typical 8-12 prints (but can be larger)
          • in a collection the same motif/pattern can exist, but in different colourways

          0_1681261849917_def482fd-694b-492f-a366-25169c2f77c3-image.png

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          • VectorStylerV Offline
            VectorStyler @syllie
            last edited by

            @syllie Yes, I think the "Gray Sketch" and a Tolerance of about 0.5 is the best way to go to get the fills out of this image.

            For a bit more control, open the "More Options" in the Image Trace panel menu, and in the Options tab, set 12 for the Window and 70% for Smoothness.
            Trying different values of the Window and Smoothness might improve the result a bit.

            Another thing that might be useful here is to turn off the Extract Fill and turn on the Extract Stroke options (using the above options). This will try to produce single curves (not filled areas).

            A higher resolution image would help a lot.

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            • syllieS Offline
              syllie @VectorStyler
              last edited by

              @VectorStyler Thank you for the tips! I will give that a go.

              The original was scanned at 300dpi (the link to dropbox), but granted, the artwork is a bit tiny for this purpose. I could run it through Gigapixel, but my first aim was to get a scan at least as good as Inkscape.

              I found this list of vectorizing tools too - VectorStyler is on there (albeit with the wrong price tag (duration)). https://github.com/fromtheexchange/image2svg-awesome

              Windows 10 Pro | 22H2

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                Subpath
                last edited by Subpath

                @syllie

                two things related to pattern design

                first
                "Colorize" might be interesting for you
                (Menu > Effects > Replace Colors > Colorize).
                If you create a color palette with colors you like.
                You can select this color palette and distribute the colors
                from this palette randomly onto selected objects.

                Unfortunately, the colored panel is not "non-modal", you have
                to to close the panel to confirm it and open it again.
                To make this easier, I made myself a little toolbar
                with "Colorize" in it.

                Here a video to see how it works in VS

                0_1681280581861_colorize-1.png
                .
                .
                second
                I am already working on a tutorial on how to create
                seamless patterns in VectorStyler. Would take yet some time.
                (I have already created a tutorial on how to create patterns with
                Clipping shapes, which can be found under Tutorials).

                Here a teaser Pic from the coming seamless Pattern Tutorial
                0_1681280148149_Teaser seamless pattern.png

                Win 11
                CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                • syllieS Offline
                  syllie @Subpath
                  last edited by

                  @Subpath said in Trace of line drawings:

                  "Colorize" might be interesting for you

                  Thank you - that is sort of an interesting option. I may not have much use for this type of redistribution as it has a chance to assign the same colour to multiple objects without further control (I prefer the consolidate colours option from recolor here).

                  I have been making patterns for a while with VS. Looking forward to your tutorial - I wrote one for Inkscape a long time ago http://web.archive.org/web/20110312191844/http://verysimpledesigns.com/vectors/inkscape-tutorial-seamless-patterns.html

                  I am sorta contemplating to restore my site (I have rebuild it in WordPress already but the content needs a refresh) and post tuts for both Inkscape and VS on there. Currently still thinking about it as it would be a significant timesink, but I believe in VS (and Inkscape - although they still lack many features and have a lot of things that I have less need for 🙂 ).

                  Windows 10 Pro | 22H2

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                    Subpath @syllie
                    last edited by

                    @syllie
                    if you find the time, it would be nice
                    if you could create a little video on how
                    you recolor in Illustrator, also don't know yet a
                    way in VS

                    I was thinking along the lines of having a bunch
                    of selected shapes and having a palette and then
                    having a function that assigns the colors of that
                    palette to the shapes one by one

                    Win 11
                    CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                    GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                    • syllieS Offline
                      syllie @Subpath
                      last edited by

                      @Subpath It actually works partially in VS, I will find the time to make a quick demo.

                      The AI way is pretty well demonstrated in this video that I also posted above: https://youtu.be/BuvbK_MPuYA?t=167

                      Windows 10 Pro | 22H2

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                        Harry
                        last edited by

                        @syllie said in Trace of line drawings:

                        One of the tools that is super-handy is the 'replace color' (or AI's recolor artwork) function as you can imagine a lot of these kind of pattern collections implement several colourways. This feature and CMYK mode support are totally lacking from Inkscape, making it a no-subsitute (as all-in-one solution).

                        Inkscape 1.3alpha0 - development version - supports CMYK. It has many new features including a pattern editor:

                        https://inkscape.org/release/inkscape-1.3/?latest=1

                        Win 11, XP Pen Deco 01 V2 graphic tablet

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                        • syllieS Offline
                          syllie @Subpath
                          last edited by syllie

                          @Subpath It is a bit primitive - but regarding the colour shuffle you should get the idea from the vid.

                          Basically you can swap existing colours in a design (manually) or by using the shuffle color order option.
                          You can add colours into the mix that do not exist in the design itself

                          https://recordit.co/wjISo1wCvq

                          Also you can reduce colours in the design by consolidating them (and the shuffle still works after that):
                          https://recordit.co/MWMJM9qQkO

                          Note that the artwork needs to be selected, the feature exist under Effects > Replace Colors > Replace Colors (I made a custom toolbox for one click access)

                          Note that this feature is very powerful (when fully functional) and you should be able to swap colours based on colour harmonies, hue, saturation etc. It is super handy to experiment with colours (whilst for my purpose I stay within an exact palette, this of course is not necessary at all)

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                            syllie @Harry
                            last edited by

                            @Harry Thanks! Total Inkscape fan and totally up to speed with it's development (using it since 2008 and ran a tutorial site for it for more than 10 years) CMYK is actually a little bit of an issue still but they are working on it. I follow Martin Owens (patreon) for development updates.

                            Windows 10 Pro | 22H2

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                              Subpath @syllie
                              last edited by

                              @syllie

                              thank a lot for taking the time
                              these are really helpful videos 👍

                              Win 11
                              CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                              GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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