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    Left and Right ALT keys are not mapped the same? (1.1.084 Win 11)

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    • Victor VectorV Offline
      Victor Vector @b77
      last edited by

      @Subpath Yes, my windows keyboard has two ALT keys that are identical in labelling. I have seen Mac keyboards with the AltGr distinction for non-US keyboards. In the US , the ALT keys are labelled identically and are treated as the same. Windows interprets CTRL+ALT as AltGr for the US keyboard.

      I checked my settings in Windows and they are set as follows:
      Windows display language = English (United States)
      Country or region = United States
      Regional format = English (United States)

      So no settings causing the keyboard to be seen as a non-us keyboard.

      @b77 Thanks for checking that on the Mac. I am still not ruling out my own configuration error, and maybe someone has encountered this before. If not, I hope it can be fixed.

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        Subpath @Victor Vector
        last edited by Subpath

        @Victor-Vector

        ... Yes, my windows keyboard has two ALT keys ...

        Ok, then i learn something new 🙂

        It's then maybe a thing between US and international keyboards layout.

        Since i am German, i use a German keyboard layout and the right ALT GR key
        is used here to display various German special characters.

        E.g. for the "@" sign ( ALT GR + q) or the "€" sign ( ALT GR + e).

        The ALT GR Key could seen as a reduced Version of ALT+STRG ( CTRL )
        you need only one key instead of two.

        Win 11
        CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
        GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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        • VectorStylerV Offline
          VectorStyler @Victor Vector
          last edited by

          @Victor-Vector Looks like a bug on Windows, will be fixed ASAP.

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          • VectorStylerV Offline
            VectorStyler @Victor Vector
            last edited by

            @Victor-Vector I checked this and currently the Right-Alt key is blocked as there were some issues reported earlier with it.
            I think it is also used for some special character input with some keyboard layouts.
            I will find a solution for this problem.

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            • Victor VectorV Offline
              Victor Vector @VectorStyler
              last edited by

              @VectorStyler I appreciate you looking into this and I hope you can get it working. Thank you!

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              • VectorStylerV Offline
                VectorStyler @Victor Vector
                last edited by

                @Victor-Vector said in Left and Right ALT keys are not mapped the same? (1.1.084 Win 11):

                I appreciate you looking into this and I hope you can get it working. Thank you!

                it is easy to get it working (just flip a flag) but the problem is that it caused some issues as a keyboard modifier while using the mouse.

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                • b77B Offline
                  b77 @VectorStyler
                  last edited by b77

                  @VectorStyler I'm not that familiar with Windows, so maybe it's not a good or doable idea… but:

                  If Victor is left-handed, maybe a setting to switch this for left-handed users (disable the left Alt and
                  enable the right Alt) could be something useful.

                  MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                  • Victor VectorV Offline
                    Victor Vector @b77
                    last edited by

                    @b77 Haha, you nailed it. I am left handed and the right ALT is my "primary" ALT, because I got into an early habit of using my mouse in the left hand.

                    Any accommodations are appreciated, but I have spent a lifetime adapting 😁

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                      Subpath
                      last edited by Subpath

                      As I wrote before, the ALT GR key is used at the German keyboard
                      for certain special characters. The most important is the @ character
                      for email addresses.

                      Instead of the ALT GR key on the right side, I can always use the ALT+STRG (CTRL) keys
                      on the left side instead. Since the ALT GR key only puts these two keys together in one.

                      By the way, I don't know any shortcut in VS where I need the ALT GR key.
                      If then only sometimes in texts for special characters (where it could be replaced
                      by ALT+STRG (CTRL) ).

                      Here a Wikipedia article about international keyboard layouts.
                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltGr_key

                      Win 11
                      CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                      GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                      • Victor VectorV Offline
                        Victor Vector @Subpath
                        last edited by

                        A couple more pieces of data:
                        Other commands are not left or right ALT specific.
                        For example to "Create a Copy of the Dragged Object", I can hold down either ALT key and drag, and it will copy the shape.
                        I noticed that in Preferences > Modifier Keys > Create a Copy of the Dragged Object is set to ALT by default and
                        Preferences > Modifier Keys > Create Composite Shape with Boolean Operation is set to ALT by default.

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                        • Victor VectorV Offline
                          Victor Vector @Victor Vector
                          last edited by

                          @VectorStyler
                          I tested this in 1.1.086 and it seems to work!
                          Thank you for fixing this issue 😊

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                          • encartE Offline
                            encart
                            last edited by

                            I am experiencing a regression and I think it may be related to this change.
                            To create a diacritical mark I currently have to hold AltGR and press the letter twice.I have noticed that pressing this key while entering text, changes the tool to Transform Tool, as it does when I press Ctrl.

                            MacBook Air M4 24Gb, Tahoe 26.2

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                            • VectorStylerV Offline
                              VectorStyler @encart
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                              @encart Yes, this is a regression.

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