Clear all content from the object?

[Ayo]

Why doesn't 'Clear all content from the object' remove all content?

[VectorStyler]

@Ayo It does remove all content. The object level opacity is not a contemt

[Ayo]

@VectorStyler
Then excuse me.
Confusion arises that I confuse it with Illustrators 'Clear Appearance' where the total object opacity is set back to Default (100%) when I tap that similar function in the appearance panel.
Then you have a 100% clean object, which is nice and reassuring to revise something or so.

[Ayo]

@VectorStyler
Is there any other function that allows me to return to an unformatted form?

[VectorStyler]

@Ayo said in Clear all content from the object?:

Is there any other function that allows me to return to an unformatted form?

No. The opacity is need to be cleared separately. Also if there are shape or image effects on the objects those are separate.

I will add a clear appearance feature, but that will not clear all content.

[Ayo]

@VectorStyler
Ok Content...
So what does 'Object Style' mean?
In 'Synchronize Object Styles' the shared opacity is also not taken into account.

[VectorStyler]

@Ayo said in Clear all content from the object?:

In 'Synchronize Object Styles' the shared opacity is also not taken into account.

Should use a different name: 'Synchronize Object Content'

[Ayo]

@VectorStyler
Hmm...

[Ayo]

@VectorStyler said in Clear all content from the object?:

I will add a clear appearance feature, but that will not clear all content.

Why not return to an unformatted form? No masks, effects, styles et.
Dismantle the whole Christmas tree

[VectorStyler]

@Ayo said in Clear all content from the object?:

Why not return to an unformatted form? No masks, effects, styles et.

Yes, I think such a command should be added, but it has to be a new one (Synchronize Content is something else).

But meanwhile I remembered that there is an Edit -> Attributes -> Copy / Paste Appearance. This might help.

[b77]

@Ayo There's also 'Remove All Image Effects' from the Effects menu, just in case.

[Ayo]

@b77

A bit dazzling. Opacity, masks, Image effects, object, content, style, apearance.

Anyway. Copy/Paste Appearance does the same as Synchronize Object Styles.

From my user perspective and experience, the behavior is not easy to understand as long as there is no disclaimer attached to it.

Cruel but a comparison.VS https://recordit.co/bwJ4clkqyC versus AI https://recordit.co/3UOc0Bv9Ft
And don't get me wrong, deep respect for the developer. And very happy with the initiative, but I am only looking for things that I feel could or should be improved.

If it's my problem, you should tell me. Then I'll stop whining about this.

I sometimes get the feeling that the back-end structure is different from e.g. Illustrator but front-end design resembles it and therefore the apearance may be caught in two minds.

What about the benchmarks?

Illustrator includes the object level opacity. In 'clear apearance' and in 'drag/drop appearance object preview icon' to past apearance to new object (something equal to copy/paste appearance or synchronize) as well.

Not familiar with this, but how does Coreldraw or Affinty D deal with this?

[b77]

@Ayo said in Clear all content from the object?:

Anyway. Copy/Paste Appearance does the same as Synchronize Object Styles.

Edit > Attributes > Copy & Paste Appearance includes the object
level opacity — it's not the same as 'Sync Object Styles'.

I'm sure the developer could include a 'Sync Appearance' button at the
bottom of the Appearance panel, but it's already full. Having Copy &
Paste Appearance in the Edit menu is good enough, IMO.

@VectorStyler
'Sync Object Content' is indeed better than 'Sync Object Style'.

[Ayo]

@b77 said in Clear all content from the object?:

Edit > Attributes > Copy & Paste Appearance includes the object
level opacity — it's not the same as 'Sync Object Styles'.

You're right.
Wouldn't a Sync apearance button at that position be more useful than Sync Object Style?
After all, it is the 'apearance' panel. Sync Object Style to a menu.

[b77]

@Ayo said in Clear all content from the object?:

Wouldn't a Sync apearance button at that position be more useful than Sync Object Style?

I mostly use 'Copy & Paste Appearance', so… maybe…

I'm curious what other users say.

[Ayo]

@b77
I have an idea that might fit the bill.

[VectorStyler]

@Ayo said in Clear all content from the object?:

I have an idea that might fit the bill.

Tere are a bit too many buttons in the Appearance panel.
How about moving these two to the panel menu, adding copy / paste to the menu?
And adding a new button for the "basic styling" mode?

[Ayo]

@VectorStyler More appearance under the flag appearance. Like so?

[Ayo]

@VectorStyler
Don't quite understand these differences. Double, redundant?

[VectorStyler]

@Ayo said in Clear all content from the object?:

Don't quite understand these differences. Double, redundant?

Clear Content should clear all content from the object.

Clear Extra Content keeps one stroke and one fill content.