Document Scale

[VectorStyler]

@Igull said in Document Scale:

Is there a way to create a document scale in VS

No such feature yet (user units exists, but cannot be created / edited for now), this could be added later.
What kind of document scale would be needed here?

Also what are the CAD features that are most needed?

[Devil Dinosaur]

You may start by building some sets of grids according to the different scales you need (1/20, 1/50...). Not the fastest way but it may be useful.

[Ingolf]

@Igull said in Document Scale:

Graphic

Good old Graphic - used it on my ipad years ago. But it does not seem to be developed further? It's been years since updates and it's certainly not ready for M1.

Shame. I liked working in it. When I was using iPads. macOS only now.

[b77]

@VectorStyler A tutorial showing canvas scaling and dimension lines is here: https://graphic.com/tutorials/create-a-simple-floor-plan-design

@Ingolf Indeed, it looks like it's abandoned… but it still works here on iOS 15.

[Subpath]

@b77

have also a copy on my ipad and still love it.
Better vector graphics features than affinity designer, in some cases.
(very good and very sensitive pressure sensitivity when drawing vector strokes
with the Apple Pencil)

but Amadine on the iPad seems to me
now the slightly better choice

[Subpath]

@Igull

For straight lines and rectangles these Panels may be helpful.

Panels > Properties
and Panels > Transform

Both have a Width and Height field
where you can enter the desired length, size

[Igull]

@VectorStyler said in Document Scale:

What kind of document scale would be needed here?

As a start, probably just 1:20, if using an A4 page (297x210mm), then that gives roughly 6x4m - handy for cabinets and simple stuff like that.

Also what are the CAD features that are most needed?

TBH, you really don't need very much, perhaps an option on the stroke panel that will give you the (true at scale) dimension of the line in the middle (or offset or off to one side). You can pick your favourite line ends anyway Maybe something that indicates an angle - again with the angle breaking the dimension line.
VS has most of the 'CAD' stuff covered already. As long as we have good visible inferencing to other objects and a good grid (I now know we do on that one ), that would do for now. You could go on forever adding features, but that's not what VS is, if you want a CAD system, you'd go elsewhere
I'd assume this to be just a useful side feature rather than as part of the mainstream set - no doubt others will chime in with their ideas/bells/whistles LOL
TIA
Neil

[Subpath]

@Igull

I have already made some experiments with floor plan drawing in VS.

Here is a method that works via Live Boolean Union
and allow some live editing.

Here a video about it:

[Igull]

@Subpath said in Document Scale:

these Panels may be helpful

Yes, I use these ALL the time when creating stuff and you can certainly dimension large objects and grids (I tried a 100m square), but having a document scale means that it will fit on a bit of paper to print on - TBH, that's probably the only benefit I guess you could simply scale at the end before printing, but it just saves all the effort.

Neil

[Igull]

@Subpath

Yes, that's a useful method - probably better than drawing with double wall-width lines on a grid .

[Subpath]

@Igull

I see, since I don't print anything from VectorStyler, I'm not that familiar with it in VectorStyler.

I thought VectorStyler automatically scales that to the selected sheet size.

[b77]

@Igull Canvas scaling goes hand in hand with dimension labels for objects — one without the other would be useless.

[Igull]

@Subpath said in Document Scale:

Better vector graphics features than affinity designer, in some cases.

There are certainly some interface features that could be taken from Graphic, it definitely has a 'crisper' feel to it and some of the rounded end editfields with a bit of LCD green colour in there definitely sets it off and makes it easier to read. I hate to say this, but I prefer the Graphic Transform panel to VS - it's all in a single line and takes up less real estate.
I do like the VS option of being able to scale the GUI, mine now seems to tie in better with the retina display.
Now, if we could just design our own sets of tool icons ... LOL LOL

Neil

[Igull]

@b77 said in Document Scale:

Canvas scaling goes hand in hand with dimension labels for objects — one without the other would be useless.

I just took that as read ?

[b77]

@Igull I guess I misunderstood one of your posts that seemed to say that canvas scaling would be enough.

[b77]

@Igull In 'Customize Toolboxes' you have an 'Edit Icon' button that allows you to change the icons.

[Igull]

@b77 said in Document Scale:

@Igull In 'Customize Toolboxes' you have an 'Edit Icon' button that allows you to change the icons.

LOL, back to RTFM
I literally find something new that I like in VS every day
I can see myself wasting hours on this, thanks.
Neil