update 1.1.060
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VectorStyler 1.1.060 release notes
- Faster expand clipped group for complex shapes.
- Opacity slider in properties panel should update correctly.
- Pencil tool to allow fill only mode.
- Stroke width changing in duplicated objects.
- Importing (and pasting) images from Adobe Illustrator format.
- Importing PDF files with clipping groups.
- Possible crash when working with object cloning.
- Fixed regression in symbol isolation for editing.
- Allow opening of symbol content in the Layers panel.
- Corner size changing to work for node selection also.
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I love that you can sketch now in Fill Mode, right from the start.
With the Path Sketch and the Pencil Tool.Preferences > Changing Options > Filled Shapes with Pencil Tool
( left side, middle region )
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@Subpath said in update 1.1.060:I love that you can sketch now in Fill Mode, right from the start.
With the Path Sketch and the Pencil Tool.
Preferences > Changing Options > Filled Shapes with Pencil ToolThis should be (sticky) settings in the context toolbar.
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I'm not soo sure that this is so important.
I don't really have a big problem with it to set this in the settings.Because even if you have set use filling in the settings.
Its still easy to switch between the two modes.
Just use no fill and give your stroke a color and vice versa.
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@Ingolf said in update 1.1.060:
This should be (sticky) settings in the context toolbar.
I agree with @Subpath on this - there is no need to make this a sticky setting in the context toolbar. If you don't want a pencil fill, don't give it a fill color. It makes total sense to leave this in the preferences only - or even remove it from preferences potentially.
@Ingolf you speak of keeping the UI simple, but yet you advocate for more and more buttons and options to be there, potentially cluttering up the UI. I'm not following the logic.
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I believe great consideration needs to be made in terms of what gets added to the default contextual menu. As it is, when viewing VS on a 16 inch laptop, the top menus extend off the screen. There's a strong argument to be made that things like boolean operations should be bundled the way the alignment panel is, in order to save space and reduce the busy look of the UI.
I love the deep level of customization that can be accomplished in VS, but the settings to do so do not need to always be on the surface level
Most people using a complex and advanced vector editing software like VS are going to be embracing keyboard shortcuts, customized menus and right-click submenus, etc to get the things they want with easy access.
As @VectorStyler improves the panel options - allowing for aggregating custom panel arrangements for certain tasks, as well as eventually being able to minimize panels docked on the right side to icons only, VS is going to gain more of that ability to be "simple" on the default opening of the program and allow the user to dig in deep into particular panel setups for specific tasks - it's going to be the best of both worlds.
If someone wants a simple vector editing software - there's always affinity or amadine. I see the most common user of VS being the power user - not someone needing every option available on the UI to click on. The secondary group I see using VS are those who use it for certain tasks that cannot be accomplished in simpler vector editing apps. In this case, they come in, they know where a function they use frequently is located and they use it and get out - again, since they only need a few specific tasks, those get memorized easily and do not need to be on the UI necessarily.
one of the complaints some people make about VS (whether fair or not) is that it's already cluttered and busy with options - so adding more does not seem to be the best solution and would only exacerbate the issue.
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@Subpath said in update 1.1.060:
I'm not soo sure that this is so important.
I don't really have a big problem with it to set this in the settings.Because even if you have set use filling in the settings.
Its still easy to switch between the two modes.
Just use no fill and give your stroke a color and vice versa.
See video here
It is just too far away in preferences - it is a tool setting after all that can and will be used now and then. This is exactly what the context toolbar is for.
Currently we have an important and growing issue with the preferences stuffed with settings, quite a few belong to the context panel. With so many settings in preferences many won't find them, and then people will either not discover it or have to come here for help.
I just think about it every time I - quite surprised - find settings in preferences, I will toggle on and of sometimes while using the tool.
Just imagine, you want to enable this setting as anyone especially new users... Preferences > Changing Options... who would discover it there?
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@Ingolf said in update 1.1.060:
It is just too far away in preferences - it is a tool setting after all that can and will be used now and then. This is exactly what the context toolbar is for.
The context tool bar is not for tools with settings adjusted "now and then", it's for tools used frequently in a given work session. This tool option in particular is really a one or the other choice, not even something occasionally changed to be honest.
Again, I would ask , does adding this rarely adjusted tool to the contextual menu bar help eliminate or contribute to a more cluttered UI?The preferences folder is getting pretty full, I agree. I could see it organized differently in the future where brushes and pencil like tools get a dedicated section, artboard and set up options get their own section, etc - making it easier to go find the area of need to edit much more efficiently than the way it is now - but i don't see cluttering the UI as the answer to a stuffed preferences folder.
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Is it me or does it return to default black stroke and no fill if I fail to close a shape with the pencil tool? (Win)
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@Ingolf Should not if Preferences > Changing Options > Filled Shapes with Pencil Tool is enabled.
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@VectorStyler said in update 1.1.060:
@Ingolf Should not if Preferences > Changing Options > Filled Shapes with Pencil Tool is enabled.
It is - and in the beginning it does happen with grey fill color - if I accidentially miss closing it, it returns to black strok, no fill.
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@Ingolf After drawing with the pencil, what is shown in the Color panel top-left knob for the fill and stroke?
And if the newly drawn shape is deselected, does it still have an outline?I tried to replicate on Windows, but here it seems to be working.
The only thing that might be confusing is the black outline shown while the object is selected.
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Movie coming up. I am using a PC with some ancient settings I will try with defaults after this movie.
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its no fall back here
once you set a Fill Colorand it doesnt matter if a shape is open
here a video
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If I after the steps in this movie toggle fill and stroke, it works.
Perhaps something related to the fact that I probably never used the pencil before on this machine/config?
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Dont know if you need the pencil to do such designs.
I would recommend to use the Path Sketch Tool for this.
Because with the Path Sketch Tool its easier to get closed Shapes.
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@Ingolf I will try to replicate this
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I only use the pen/node tool and shapes + boolean ops. Just trying the implemented change.
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@Ingolf If you set a fill color in the Color panel (other than the default) and leave the stroke to none, is the Pencil still drawing with a stroke?
