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    • b77B Offline
      b77 @Igull
      last edited by b77

      @Igull Shift-rotate basically jumps to 45° fixed quarters/divisions (horizontal, vertical and
      diagonal), not to 12° (or whatever the current rotation angle is) +/- 45°.

      I also suggested that this is a behavior that could be a (non-default) option in Preferences.

      MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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        VectorStyler @Igull
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        @Igull said in Simple Rotate Question:

        If you create a line, then use the collider tool tool to lock it to another object's angle - then attempt to rotate it using the shift key, it doesn't rotate it through 45/90.

        Yes, in this case it changes the existing rotation angle to 90 degrees.
        A Convert to Curves will flatten the current rotation into the line.

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          Igull @b77
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          @b77 said in Simple Rotate Question:

          I also suggested that this is a behavior that could be a (non-default) option in Preferences.

          Yes, for me, that would be a better option - or even an added modifier - cmd+shift say ??

          Neil

          iMac 27" 2015 Catalina 32Gb, MacBook Pro 13" 2016 Monterey 8Gb, Mac Mini M2 2023 8Gb

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            VectorStyler @b77
            last edited by

            @b77 said in Simple Rotate Question:

            I also suggested that this is a behavior that could be a (non-default) option in Preferences.

            Added this to the backlog.

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              b77 @Igull
              last edited by b77

              @Igull If I'm not misunderstanding something, in version 1.1.080
              enabling 'Relative Angle Constrain' in Prefs > Editing Options 1
              does what you (and me) asked for.

              MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                Igull @b77
                last edited by

                @b77 said in Simple Rotate Question:

                @Igull If I'm not misunderstanding something, in version 1.1.080
                enabling 'Relative Angle Constrain' in Prefs > Editing Options 1
                does what you (and me) asked for.

                Yes, it does :-). Works fine too !

                However, wouldn't it have been better to just have a modifier key - say cmd+shift (or ctrl+shift for the winfolks) to do relative constrain or just shift to force it to orthogonal ? Having an option in prefs (Settings ??) seems a bit clunky ??

                Just my thought.

                Neil

                iMac 27" 2015 Catalina 32Gb, MacBook Pro 13" 2016 Monterey 8Gb, Mac Mini M2 2023 8Gb

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                  VectorStyler @Igull
                  last edited by

                  @Igull said in Simple Rotate Question:

                  wouldn't it have been better to just have a modifier key

                  We are a bit overloaded with modifier keys already 😞

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                    b77
                    last edited by b77

                    @Igull said in Simple Rotate Question:

                    Yes, it does :-). Works fine too !

                    However, wouldn't it have been better to just have a modifier key…

                    I would just prefer the 'relative' option to be on by default.

                    @Igull You are doing technical drawings, IIRC.

                    How many times do you need the fixed step rotation instead
                    of the relative?

                    MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                    • IgullI Offline
                      Igull @b77
                      last edited by

                      @b77 said in Simple Rotate Question:

                      How many times do you need the fixed step rotation instead
                      of the relative?

                      TBH, that's probably laziness on my part, but having both options available via a modifier key would save me having to use the collision tool to force the object back to orthogonal then use the rotate option - so, simply holding (say) the command key down would be relative - without, would force the object back to orthogonal.

                      If it's a binary situation on modifier keys (surely a person can never have sufficient modifier keys LOL), then yes, having relative on by default is probably the better option.

                      I fully realise that having more modifiers is creating a stick for Csaba's back, but it makes the delight of using and modifying VS such a great experience - once you have nailed down your own preferences and saved them, what a HUGE time saver it is. I do find myself going back to tweak my settings and improving the experience even more.

                      May the fourth be with you 🙂

                      Neil

                      iMac 27" 2015 Catalina 32Gb, MacBook Pro 13" 2016 Monterey 8Gb, Mac Mini M2 2023 8Gb

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                        b77 @Igull
                        last edited by b77

                        @Igull Yes, a modifier for this would be nice. I don't consider it laziness, it's a fast workflow.

                        But in my mind Cmd is connected to editing, not transforming an object.
                        And it doesn't have a direct equivalent on Windows keyboards.

                        @VectorStyler Could Ctrl-Shift for orthogonal rotation work on both Mac and Win?

                        Btw…

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                        May the 4th be with you. 🙂

                        MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                          VectorStyler @b77
                          last edited by

                          @b77 said in Simple Rotate Question:

                          Could Ctrl-Shift for orthogonal rotation work on both Mac and Win

                          Added this to the backlog, I will check if this is possible.

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                            Igull @VectorStyler
                            last edited by Igull

                            @VectorStyler said in Simple Rotate Question:

                            @b77 said in Simple Rotate Question:

                            Could Ctrl-Shift for orthogonal rotation work on both Mac and Win

                            Added this to the backlog, I will check if this is possible.

                            Still prefer command on Mac, could use ctrl on PC 'though. Ctrl has never been anything other than contextual on mac - it's also far far away in another galaxy - right on the edge of all the keyboards 🙂

                            Neil

                            iMac 27" 2015 Catalina 32Gb, MacBook Pro 13" 2016 Monterey 8Gb, Mac Mini M2 2023 8Gb

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                              Igull @b77
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                              @b77 said in Simple Rotate Question:

                              May the 4th be with you.

                              ☺ ☺ ☝

                              iMac 27" 2015 Catalina 32Gb, MacBook Pro 13" 2016 Monterey 8Gb, Mac Mini M2 2023 8Gb

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