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    • 861475_VctSt8 Offline
      861475_VctSt
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      What steps do you take when drawing a trapezoid?
      Please let me know how to do it in as few steps as possible.

      0_1705197029672_trapezoid.jpg

      In the future, I would like to have a trapezoid tool.
      It should be in Transform.
      I would like to develop it further and have an effect to give perspective to the object.

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        Devil Dinosaur @861475_VctSt
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        @861475_VctSt
        I draw a rectangle,
        then I convert it to curve (right click),
        then I select the 2 nodes on the top,
        then I use the scale tool (or change the width value in the transform panel if I need a specific size).

        I agree that a trapezoid tool or readymade shape would be nice.

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          Subpath @861475_VctSt
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          @861475_VctSt

          here also a description from me 🙂

          Freehand:
          create a rectangle
          convert it to curve
          select the two upper nodes
          switch to transform Tool
          hold ctrl (win) while move the Nodes

          With the Transform Panel:
          create a rectangle
          convert it to curve
          select the two upper nodes
          change the Value in the width Field
          ( with Up and Down Keys
          or with the Mouse - Scrollwheel
          or just typing )

          Here a video

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            Subpath
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            Because of adding other shapes

            I'm missing more of a Shape Library Panel

            Where you can insert and remove your shapes using drag and drop.

            This way you could store shapes you've created once
            and put them back on the canvas when you need them again

            A Panel like this could also be helpful for a kind of kitbashing

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              B-Vs-V @Subpath
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              @Subpath said in trapezoid:

              I'm missing more of a Shape Library Panel

              Where you can insert and remove your shapes using drag and drop.

              This way you could store shapes you've created once
              and put them back on the canvas when you need them again

              A Panel like this could also be helpful for a kind of kitbashing

              @Subpath I thought this feature was already there in VS. I await the next update impatiently so that I can get to work with VS again.

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                @Subpath said in trapezoid:

                I'm missing more of a Shape Library Panel

                You can create shape presets with the Presets panel. Then select those shapes to replace some shape in the canvas.
                (I will also add drag&drop creation).

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                  Subpath @VectorStyler
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                  @VectorStyler said in trapezoid:

                  @Subpath said in trapezoid:

                  I'm missing more of a Shape Library Panel

                  You can create shape presets with the Presets panel. Then select those shapes to replace some shape in the canvas.
                  (I will also add drag&drop creation).

                  remember that, but be able to use drag and drop
                  would be a little more fluid

                  the idea it self came from the app "Concepts"
                  on my iPad, here a sketch how it works in Concepts
                  just for inspiration

                  0_1705236671680_Shape Library in Concepts.png

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                    Boldline @Subpath
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                    @Subpath The solution "concepts" uses seems like a very effective solution. What do you do if you have many more unique shapes? There seems to be a limit to what can be shown in that layout example you shared

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                      Subpath @Boldline
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                      @Boldline said in trapezoid:

                      @Subpath The solution "concepts" uses seems like a very effective solution. What do you do if you have many more unique shapes? There seems to be a limit to what can be shown in that layout example you shared

                      The maximum of that storage fields visible on the screen are 12, on my iPad Pro 12.9.
                      The maximum number of shapes is higher because you can switch between different libraries.
                      For architecture, electronics, shoes, faces, etc.

                      Since scrolling on the iPad is fast and smooth, scrolling back and forth isn't
                      much of a problem

                      Saving a shape only takes one click,
                      also just one click to place a shape on the canvas (or drag & drop).
                      So using this shape storage is also pretty fluid.

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                        B-Vs-V @Subpath
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                        @Subpath I could be mistaken, but isn't that also the case for the Affinity suite (assets)?

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                          Subpath
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                          I'm creating a thread in " Features and Ideas. " on this topic,
                          because it is a bit more extensive as I thought.

                          So, my Post about a Shape Library is now in "Features and Ideas"
                          Here the Link:
                          https://www.vectorstyler.com/forum/topic/3878/kind-of-shape-library

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                            Subpath @B-Vs-V
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                            @Pat

                            I think there are some similarities.

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                              861475_VctSt @VectorStyler
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                              I am sure everyone agrees on how to draw trapezoids using VS's advanced functionality.

                              I think that since there are "star" and "spiral" tools, there should be a "trapezoid" tool as well. I think this is a short-sighted idea.

                              I wonder if this kind of tool is already obsolete.

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                                Li Xiao @VectorStyler
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                                @VectorStyler It is necessary to add a tool that can generate precise irregular polygon shapes, including isosceles triangles, trapezoids, etc. This tool should allow parameterized inputs for different side lengths, angles, and other properties.

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                                  Subpath
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                                  @861475_VctSt , @Li-Xiao

                                  could the "Envelope Distortion" be helpful
                                  with this kind of Transformation ?

                                  See Video here

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                                    Li Xiao @Subpath
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                                    @Subpath Thank you! I need to generate a correct triangle based on the known values of its three sides, as shown in the following diagram.
                                    0_1705395041002_triangle.jpg

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                                      Subpath @Li Xiao
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                                      @Li-Xiao, your welcome

                                      looks like a CAD case to me ?

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                                        Li Xiao @Subpath
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                                        @Subpath Yes, it is relatively easy to implement in CAD software. Apps like AI or CD have plugins available for generating such shapes.

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