Strange circle modification when dragged in layers
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Hi,
I have a circle of 81x81 pt and 15 pt of line thickness, in a layer. I duplicate by contextual menu then slide the copy in a sub-layer in another layer. The copy automatically increases to 108.1x108.1 pt and 20 pt… When put back in its original layer, it recovers its original values.
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@fdarnel Send me a VS file with this example.
It could be that the original layer is transformed, and when the object is moved out of the layer that transform will not apply to the object anymore. -
Where can one see that a layer is transformed?
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To which layer was the red circle moved?
Where can one see that a layer is transformed?
The "Shape Effects" panel will show the transform
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@VectorStyler
To "Lettres"
I just see Styles Custom
Another problem, in this same layer. When I convert a copied circle to curves, it's outline seems small, but still has 15,1 pt thickness.
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I just see Styles Custom
It means that there are no shape effects on the Layer (which is good in this case, because I do not see any).
About the error:
I cannot replicate this. I dragged a copy into the layer and the size remained the same.Send me a version of the file where you have the copy in that layer and the size is different (then I can find out what causes the resizing).
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@VectorStyler
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@fdarnel Now I can see the issue.
Only the object "o" is copied from the "{Group} seau".
But the "{Group} seau" has a transform (remember that in VS transforms are non-destructively stacked on objects).
What happens is that the object "o" has no transform, but it is transformed while inside "{Group} seau", and it will not be transformed if outside of the group.
When I convert a copied circle to curves, it's outline seems small, but still has 15,1 pt thickness.
This one is an issue with the displayed value. It seems to be a bug, I will fix it.
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Thanks.
Probably I don't know well enough the app, as I am in trial period. May be a visual clue on the groups/layers concerned?
Still I don't understand why you didn't get the same result from the same file.
So how do I apply definitly this tranformation to the objects in the group? I selected it and tried "reset" in Transform.It is not only the displayed value, as you see in the capture. Before the conversion, the circle size is 33,33%, so I presume this is the problem. Is there an option to keep the thickness when using the button?
Another thing I don't understand: I drag an drop this circle multiple times with, cmd-alt. So they are all at 33,33%. Then I change just one of them for 100%, all are changed. Are they some kind of instances of a symbol?
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@fdarnel said in Strange circle modification when dragged in layers:
Still I don't understand why you didn't get the same result from the same file.
I got the same result, I just did not know what was copied at first.
So how do I apply definitly this tranformation to the objects in the group?
Object -> Convert to Curves on the group after applying transforms. Otherwise objects/shapes/transform stay parametric.
Is there an option to keep the thickness when using the button?
This is. not clear. Is this button the Convert to Curves?
Another thing I don't understand: I drag an drop this circle multiple times with, cmd-alt.
Was it only Cmd+ (and not cmd-alt) ? Command+ creates references not copies. This is the same as symbols. Changing the original will change all instances.
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Yes this button.
I was wrong, sorry. I used alt-maj, to copy and constrain the angle, just like in AI.
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@fdarnel said in Strange circle modification when dragged in layers:
So I got instances of the same circle?
Yes.
If so, how can I visually remember that?
In the Layers panel, these should start with "Reference"
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I don't see any Reference and nothing in Symbols palette, so they must not be instances, only copies.
What about respect of thickness when using Convert to curves button?
I still don't get this : I diminish a big circle to 33,33% in Transform, then just duplicate it twice with alt-maj, reset just the last copy to 100%. Now the two others are also at 100%… I sent you a capture video by email.
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@fdarnel said in Strange circle modification when dragged in layers:
I don't see any Reference and nothing in Symbols palette, so they must not be instances, only copies.
These will not show up in the Symbols panel.
What about respect of thickness when using Convert to curves button?
I opened a bug on this, it is only about the value that is show.
I still don't get this : I diminish a big circle to 33,33% in Transform, then just duplicate it twice with alt-maj, reset just the last copy to 100%. Now the two others are also at 100%… I sent you a capture video by email.
This one is clearly a bug, and I can replicate it here. Will be fixed in the next build.
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Ok, thanks.
