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    • b77B Offline
      b77 @VectorStyler
      last edited by b77

      Would it be a problem if the highlight would not be a rounded square and instead
      use just a whiter stroke and a lighter "fill" for the selected corner type?

      I tried a mockup with colored highlight but I kinda prefer the third option:

      0_1667947793171_rc.png

      Also, a [+] button that would let you add any open shape to the corners list would be nice.

      I know this can be done from the Object menu > Object Role, but doesn't hurt to have a second
      location, right here in the Corners popover.

      …………………………

      Btw, new corner types are added at the front of the list and not at the end. Is this by design?

      MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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        Subpath @b77
        last edited by

        @b77

        like both ideas, the third one for the corner type
        and the + for adding new corner types

        Win 11
        CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
        GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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        • IngolfI Offline
          Ingolf
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          I will always refer to and stick to standards and predictability, so I prefer the solid solid blue one - that is how everything else is highlighted in VS too. You can't invent local UI logic. 🙂

          Third idea is non-standard (the lack of blue makes it indistinguishable from a regular icon) and confusing - it could also signify that this choice involves a fill.

          I understand the choice of a frame now, so that you can clearly see the content, so number one is also an okay suggestion, but it should be something like 2. A faded blue is possible. But the use of blue is completely basic and important symbolically for people to decode what is meant by the UI here.

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            b77 @Ingolf
            last edited by b77

            @Ingolf OK, but in case one of the first two versions is used, I hope the developer changes it to a
            desaturated blue, like the blue used elsewhere in the UI… the current blue is straight outta BSOD-land. 😖🙂

            MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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              Boldline @b77
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              @b77 Awesome job mocking those up. I also really like #3 the most and option 1 as my second choice. I like the subtly of the 3rd option but can also understand why it looks like a fill.
              I also agree the blue should be desaturated as well

              0_1667951779510_bbce2061-1f94-4323-af66-dc4b9a98643e-BLD 2022-11-08 at 18.54.39@2x.png

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              • encartE Offline
                encart
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                The first thing that popped into my head to make it easier to distinguish between the first two modes was the placement of the centre of the circle.
                I just want to make sure that you also considered this option, but rejected it and nobody mentioned it.

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                  Subpath @encart
                  last edited by

                  @encart

                  also a good Idea

                  Win 11
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                  GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                    b77 @encart
                    last edited by b77

                    @encart To me (and at least on a Retina screen) the difference between the first
                    two corner types is visible without a dot.

                    @Subpath You mentioned somewhere that you use a non-Retina display, IIRC.
                    Is there no discernible difference between the first two corner types there?

                    MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                    • IngolfI Offline
                      Ingolf @b77
                      last edited by

                      @b77 said in Corner rounding algorithm:

                      @Ingolf OK, but in case one of the first two versions is used, I hope the developer changes it to a
                      desaturated blue, like the blue used elsewhere in the UI… the current blue is straight outta BSOD-land. 😖🙂

                      Agreed 🙂

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                        Subpath @b77
                        last edited by Subpath

                        @b77 said in Corner rounding algorithm:

                        You mentioned somewhere that you use a non-Retina display, IIRC.
                        Is there no discernible difference between the first two corner types there?

                        On my Monitor, I can see there is a difference.
                        Small, but noticeable to me.

                        But I must say that I have a trained eye, since I been
                        working with vector graphics a long time.

                        Win 11
                        CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                        GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                        • b77B Offline
                          b77
                          last edited by b77

                          @VectorStyler An idea:

                          Option-clicking any of the corner types could invert the corner (make it concave) and revert it to convex when you Option-click again.

                          (I know there is a special button for that in the Corner panel, but it would be faster this way).

                          MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                            Subpath
                            last edited by

                            forgot to mention that the screen resolution I use is 1440x900 pixels

                            Win 11
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                            GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                            • IgullI Offline
                              Igull @Ingolf
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                              @Ingolf said in Corner rounding algorithm:

                              (not another choice in preferences, please).

                              Arghhh, I just want a proper and real radiused corner, never a smooth corner - to the value I set in the panel, to the node that I selected and not to all the corners of the object.
                              VS occasionally drives me nuts with corners, it randomly seems to deploy odd-shaped radii to perfectly 90deg corners - even after selecting the radiused option - I must revisit this issue again with some accurate examples - maybe even a video 🙂
                              I DO want proper radiused corners, to be sticky and to be the permanent default corner - get rid of all these other silly mis-shapen corners, they're just for those arty types that seem to linger on this forum LOL 🙂

                              I'm eminently happy to have a preference for this - if nothing else than to ensure those arty types don't get their evil way 🙂

                              /RANT 🙂

                              Neil

                              iMac 27" 2015 Catalina 32Gb, MacBook Pro 13" 2016 Monterey 8Gb, Mac Mini M2 2023 8Gb

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                                b77 @Igull
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                                @Igull If you selected any of the corner types and it would stick even between sessions
                                (what @Ingolf suggested), isn't that OK?

                                I see no inconvenience here, and no need for a Prefs entry — you keep the corner type set
                                to the first one, others to the second one, and the app doesn't change it to something
                                else between sessions.

                                …………………………………

                                If you want corner rounding applied to a selection of corners (not to all of them),
                                you need to first click the rounding handle of that corner (or Shift-click multiple
                                corner handles), then dragging should round only those.

                                …………………………………

                                Make a video with the issue you mention (if you can replicate it) and send it
                                directly to the developer.

                                MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                                  Ingolf @b77
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                                  @b77 said in Corner rounding algorithm:

                                  @Igull If you selected any of the corner types and it would stick even between sessions
                                  (what @Ingolf suggested), isn't that OK?
                                  I see no inconvenience here, and no need for a Prefs entry — you keep the corner type set
                                  to the first one, others to the second one, and the app doesn't change it to something
                                  else between sessions.

                                  Agreed.

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                                    VectorStyler @Igull
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                                    @Igull said in Corner rounding algorithm:

                                    randomly seems to deploy odd-shaped radii to perfectly 90deg corners

                                    Is there a file with an example of this. I would like to replicate this issue.

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                                      Igull @VectorStyler
                                      last edited by

                                      @VectorStyler
                                      Here's a video of a very simple file with two rectangles drawn using the pen tool. Selecting any point on the rectangle then creating a value for a corner - invariably, it doesn't create a corner.
                                      Selecting the complete rectangle then entering a value for the corner gives weird results, the bottom two corners have different types of corners and different values ???
                                      Of course, there's no guarantee that I am not doing something completely wrong 🙂
                                      I've attached a link to the vid ... https://recordit.co/fpRENkANQL
                                      TIA
                                      Neil

                                      iMac 27" 2015 Catalina 32Gb, MacBook Pro 13" 2016 Monterey 8Gb, Mac Mini M2 2023 8Gb

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                                      • VectorStylerV Offline
                                        VectorStyler @Igull
                                        last edited by

                                        @Igull When using the Node tool, the corner field will not work with the selected node. This works only for the Corner tool (third group of tools).

                                        As for the second part, it is not clear yet why only the bottom corners are rounded. I will try to replicate this.

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                                        • IgullI Offline
                                          Igull @VectorStyler
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                                          I've just been looking at this in more detail, I created the rectangles (closed) using the pen tool - the corner doesn't seem to work properly on that.
                                          If I create a rectangle using the rectangle tool, it's fine. If I duplicate that rectangle and convert it to curves then create corners, it still works fine.
                                          There seems to be a difference between manually created rectangles and those created and converted using the rectangle tool. ?

                                          Neil

                                          iMac 27" 2015 Catalina 32Gb, MacBook Pro 13" 2016 Monterey 8Gb, Mac Mini M2 2023 8Gb

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                                          • VectorStylerV Offline
                                            VectorStyler @Igull
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                                            @Igull Can you send me the file with those rectangles that have problems with the corner.

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