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      Subpath @b77
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      @b77 said in Little indicator Sign "+" for Path Sketch Tool to know that a Shape is closed:

      So when the path you draw gets real close to the other endpoint, the app should auto-nudge the last node over the other and close the shape?

      in principle, yes
      this is the extended version of my original idea.

      Originally I just wanted an indicator that a Shape is closed.

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        Ingolf @Subpath
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        @Subpath said in Little indicator Sign "+" for Path Sketch Tool to know that a Shape is closed:

        @Ingolf

        Is, in my eyes, not comparable with the Pen Tool.
        Because when you draw with the Path Sketch or the Pencil tool
        you often draw a little faster. So you need a somewhat bigger snap radius.
        .
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        @b77
        I don't know what speaks against an (adjustable) snap radius.
        Made a Pic where the Circle is the double Size of the Circle
        used by now, but could also be a little smaller.
        So i think an adjust option would be nice.

        I requested it in the pen tool so I understand now and agree. A "Snap when closing" (with better tooltip) and a snap radius setting in a context sensitive toolbar would make perfect sense to me. Even shorter label would be fine.

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          b77 @Subpath
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          @Subpath Nothing against a 'close' indicator and snap radius either. 👍
          It's just that your first screen capture from Xara showed the indicator on the cursor, not on the shape where it should be IMO.

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            b77 @Subpath
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            @Subpath Btw, the Path Sketch tool allows you to redraw the last stroke if you press Option/Alt.

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              Subpath @b77
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              @b77 said in Little indicator Sign "+" for Path Sketch Tool to know that a Shape is closed:

              @Subpath Btw, the Path Sketch tool allows you to redraw the last stroke if you press Option/Alt.

              interesting, could you tell me a little more in detail
              how this work ? Could not figure it out by myself.

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                b77 @Subpath
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                @Subpath After you draw a stroke and it's not exactly what you want (let's say, it didn't intersect the object you wanted or it didn't self-intersect), hold down Option/Alt and draw it again.

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                  Subpath @b77
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                  @b77

                  thank you
                  found it out In the meantime

                  I know something similar from
                  Corel Draws Sketch Mode

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                    Subpath @b77
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                    @b77 said in Little indicator Sign "+" for Path Sketch Tool to know that a Shape is closed:

                    @Subpath Nothing against a 'close' indicator and snap radius either. 👍
                    It's just that your first screen capture from Xara showed the indicator on the cursor, not on the shape where it should be IMO.

                    thats also often a fault of Recordit, it doesnt show
                    often the right positions of shapes

                    will use my other Gif Recorder "Screen to Gif" more often
                    (btw a really nice little Tool) but Win only

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                      b77 @Subpath
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                      @Subpath Oh… got it.

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                        Boldline
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                        From my playing around with the Path Sketch tool, I am wondering if it really needs an indicator to close - the closed path erases away and an open path creates a fill - usually I am just making sure the path overlaps itself on the side opposite the fill

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                          Subpath @Boldline
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                          @Boldline said in Little indicator Sign "+" for Path Sketch Tool to know that a Shape is closed:

                          From my playing around with the Path Sketch tool, I am wondering if it really needs an indicator to close - the closed path erases away and an open path creates a fill - usually I am just making sure the path overlaps itself on the side opposite the fill

                          Did not know that way, interesting.
                          So, much fuss about nothing ?

                          In my trials, I had a cases where the Shape
                          was still open, so I let my request as it is.

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                            Boldline @Subpath
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                            @Subpath that is what @VectorStyler explained in that old post I linked to in the other thread (unless I misunderstood)
                            What has been your experience?

                            Part of me would like it to create a fill shape if you start within the fill shape and go out and come back in and create a negative cut if you started outside the shape and went in and came back out. That would seem pretty straightforward to me, but there might be some better methods with the way it is now that I am missing and need to practice and ask more questions about

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                              Subpath @Boldline
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                              @Boldline

                              i was thinking the way you close the shape
                              and came to the conclusion that a Snap Radius
                              and Indicator is still a useful thing
                              .
                              .

                              I often don't really understand the functionality
                              of the Shape Sketch tool yet either.

                              Sometimes it cuts when I expect the opposite
                              and vice versa. Will test it a little longer.

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                                Subpath
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                                @VectorStyler

                                So, after all the discussion, i am refining my request a bit.
                                (btw i found the discussion helpful)

                                I would like to say that this is in no way urgent.
                                If the idea that should be implemented.
                                Ultimately, it is only an idea that is also based on my personal
                                preferences. Which some may share and others may not.
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                                My original request was some kind of sign that is displayed
                                when a shape drawn with the Path Sketch Tool is closed.

                                This could be a small circle. However I would find it better if
                                the circle only appears when I am in the area of the snap radius.

                                And not that that sign is displayed all the time,
                                like with the pencil tool.

                                A solution where you give some kind of adjustable snap radius
                                for these two tools could also be sufficient.

                                And maybe an adjustable snap radius would solve the problem
                                alone with open shapes without the need for an indicator.

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                                  Boldline @Subpath
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                                  @Subpath If the closed path in Path Sketch is primarily used to remove vector fills material - how would it help and not hinder to add that snap ability? The very nature of the tool seems to be quick edits and from what I've found, simple overlapping the path essentially closes the shape completely. It seems even faster than adding a way to snap to the end point to me. Just sharing my thoughts

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                                    Subpath @Boldline
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                                    @Boldline

                                    will make a video
                                    but will take a little time

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                                      Subpath @Boldline
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                                      @Boldline

                                      It seems a little difficult to decide whether an indicator would be helpful or not.
                                      Because we can't test the difference.

                                      And it also depends on what kind of shapes you create.

                                      @VectorStyler can also leave the request open, in my opion
                                      and see if any other requests come along

                                      here the video

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                                        VectorStyler @Subpath
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                                        @Subpath There are plenty of things to do for 1.2 already, lets return to this later.

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                                          Subpath @VectorStyler
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                                          @VectorStyler

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                                            Subpath @VectorStyler
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                                            @VectorStyler said in Little indicator Sign "°" for Path Sketch Tool to know that a Shape is closed:

                                            @Subpath There are plenty of things to do for 1.2 already, lets return to this later.

                                            No Problem, take your time

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