Corner Fulcrum Bug ?

b77

@Subpath @b77
you can no longer add symmetrical radiused corners to the object and there seems to be no way around this issue.

As a workaround for now, revert the rounded corners to zero and hit the 'Convert to Curves' button,
and it will let you add symmetrical radiused corners again.

Igull

@b77 said in Corner Fulcrum Bug ?:

As a workaround for now, revert the rounded corners to zero and hit the 'Convert to Curves' button,
and it will let you add symmetrical radiused corners again.

Nope, that doesn't work - if you already have a rectangle created with the pen tool, you can't get back to that position - the centre points move as soon as you resize the rectangle (smart or otherwise).

Neil

b77

@Igull Yes, a rectangle made with the Pen tool is a "dumb" rectangle.

If I apply rounded corners to it then decide that I need to resize the rectangle non-proportionally,
bring the rounded corners back to zero (no roundness), then pressing 'Convert to Curves' resets
the rounded corner handles to equal distance from the corners:

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It's a workaround…

Subpath

@Igull , @b77

A alternative way to resize a "dumb" Shape
and keep round Corners intact, is to do this
with the "Shape Editor Tool"

See Video here

Igull

@b77 said in Corner Fulcrum Bug ?:

If I apply rounded corners to it then decide that I need to resize the rectangle non-proportionally,
bring the rounded corners back to zero (no roundness), then pressing 'Convert to Curves' resets
the rounded corner handles to equal distance from the corners:

Not here it doesn't There must be some difference in preference set between us that I don't know about ?
Forget actually adding corners for now, if you create a rectangle, convert shape to curves then resize the rectangle non-proportionately - say just pulling one edge, you can see that the corner radius centres are miles off being symmetrical ?? Doing another convert shape to curves does nothing ?

TIA

Neil

Igull

@Subpath

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I see the issue !!!!!!!!

You are using the pulldown from the shape palette, I'm using the menuitem convert shapes to curves which I have permanently on my right-click contextual menu !!!

When I use the one on the shape palette, it actually works.

I now see why, there are two Object menuitems, one is convert shapes to curves the other is convert to curves (Shift+Opt+O) - maybe just a tad confusing ????

The shape palette actually says "Convert the select object shapes to curves (Shift+Opt+O)" whereas the object menuitem says convert to curves (Shift+Opt+O) !!

Perhaps this all needs rewording :-))

I'm quite happy to just reset the corner centres for now, but this is all a bit confusing for the over sixties

Thanks

Neil

Subpath

@Igull

Subpath

@Igull

If you look at the Corner Panel > Panels > Corner
down below at the right side the X in circle
will delete all rounded corners from a selected shape

btw you can create a Action for the needed Steps
see pic below
( unwanted recorded Steps can be deleted in the Action Panel)

VectorStyler

@Igull said in Corner Fulcrum Bug ?:

Resize the rectangle using the width and height boxes

Question regarding the original post:
Do you have the "Direct Shape Transformation" option enabled in Preferences -> Editing Options 2 (bottom right checkbox) ?

Igull

@VectorStyler said in Corner Fulcrum Bug ?:

Question regarding the original post:
Do you have the "Direct Shape Transformation" option enabled in Preferences -> Editing Options 2 (bottom right checkbox) ?

No, I don't

I've set that now and the issue has gone !!!! I've tried with various shapes and none are an issue when resized now - just perfect, thank you !!!!!!!!!!

Neil

VectorStyler

@Igull said in Corner Fulcrum Bug ?:

tried with various shapes and none are an issue when resized now - just perfect

Not yet! I think paths should also support this direct shape transform and I added it now.

b77

@VectorStyler If the next build will have changes related to all this, please explain the changes here when it's released.

VectorStyler

@b77 said in Corner Fulcrum Bug ?:

@VectorStyler If the next build will have changes related to all this, please explain the changes here when it's released.

Before I forget:

The only change that will be in the next build is that when a free path (not parametric shape) is scaled or rotated and the "Direct Shape Transformation" is enabled (already exists), then instead of adding a "nondestructive" transform to the object, it will just scale the path, leaving the corners "rounded".