Left and Right ALT keys are not mapped the same? (1.1.084 Win 11)
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@Victor-Vector I̶f̶ ̶I̶ ̶u̶n̶d̶e̶r̶s̶t̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶c̶o̶r̶r̶e̶c̶t̶l̶y̶,̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶c̶r̶e̶a̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶a̶ ̶c̶o̶m̶p̶o̶s̶i̶t̶e̶ ̶o̶b̶j̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶f̶r̶o̶m̶ ̶t̶w̶o̶
s̶h̶a̶p̶e̶s̶ ̶(̶O̶b̶j̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶m̶e̶n̶u̶ ̶>̶ ̶C̶o̶m̶p̶o̶s̶i̶t̶e̶ ̶>̶ ̶C̶o̶m̶b̶i̶n̶e̶d̶/̶I̶n̶t̶e̶r̶s̶e̶c̶t̶/̶U̶n̶i̶o̶n̶/̶e̶t̶c̶)̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶n̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶
A̶l̶t̶-̶c̶l̶i̶c̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶(̶o̶r̶ ̶A̶l̶t̶-̶d̶r̶a̶g̶g̶i̶n̶g̶?̶)̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶m̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶S̶e̶l̶e̶c̶t̶/̶T̶r̶a̶n̶s̶f̶o̶r̶m̶ ̶t̶o̶o̶l̶ ̶(̶s̶h̶o̶r̶t̶c̶u̶t̶:̶ ̶V̶)̶?̶
A̶l̶s̶o̶:̶ ̶w̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶e̶l̶e̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶m̶o̶d̶e̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶c̶o̶n̶t̶e̶x̶t̶ ̶p̶a̶n̶e̶l̶ ̶—̶ ̶w̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶f̶o̶u̶r̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶t̶o̶n̶s̶ ̶
i̶s̶ ̶a̶c̶t̶i̶v̶e̶?̶
(̶I̶f̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶o̶ ̶d̶i̶f̶f̶i̶c̶u̶l̶t̶,̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶r̶e̶c̶o̶r̶d̶ ̶a̶ ̶s̶h̶o̶r̶t̶ ̶v̶i̶d̶e̶o̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶R̶e̶c̶o̶r̶d̶i̶t̶)̶.̶I understand now what you mean, please ignore.
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i wonder where you get that right Alt-Key ?
My Keyboard have only a Left Alt-Key
and a right ALT GR-Key so this is in my eyes
a ALT+CTRL-Keyand as Composite Shapes works only
with the Left (really) ALT-Key the right one
could only create a normal Boolean -
@Victor-Vector Both Option (Alt) keys work the same on the Mac when creating a composite shape.
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@Subpath Yes, my windows keyboard has two ALT keys that are identical in labelling. I have seen Mac keyboards with the AltGr distinction for non-US keyboards. In the US , the ALT keys are labelled identically and are treated as the same. Windows interprets CTRL+ALT as AltGr for the US keyboard.
I checked my settings in Windows and they are set as follows:
Windows display language = English (United States)
Country or region = United States
Regional format = English (United States)So no settings causing the keyboard to be seen as a non-us keyboard.
@b77 Thanks for checking that on the Mac. I am still not ruling out my own configuration error, and maybe someone has encountered this before. If not, I hope it can be fixed.
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... Yes, my windows keyboard has two ALT keys ...
Ok, then i learn something new
It's then maybe a thing between US and international keyboards layout.
Since i am German, i use a German keyboard layout and the right ALT GR key
is used here to display various German special characters.E.g. for the "@" sign ( ALT GR + q) or the "€" sign ( ALT GR + e).
The ALT GR Key could seen as a reduced Version of ALT+STRG ( CTRL )
you need only one key instead of two. -
@Victor-Vector Looks like a bug on Windows, will be fixed ASAP.
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@Victor-Vector I checked this and currently the Right-Alt key is blocked as there were some issues reported earlier with it.
I think it is also used for some special character input with some keyboard layouts.
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@VectorStyler I appreciate you looking into this and I hope you can get it working. Thank you!
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@Victor-Vector said in Left and Right ALT keys are not mapped the same? (1.1.084 Win 11):
I appreciate you looking into this and I hope you can get it working. Thank you!
it is easy to get it working (just flip a flag) but the problem is that it caused some issues as a keyboard modifier while using the mouse.
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@VectorStyler I'm not that familiar with Windows, so maybe it's not a good or doable idea… but:
If Victor is left-handed, maybe a setting to switch this for left-handed users (disable the left Alt and
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@b77 Haha, you nailed it. I am left handed and the right ALT is my "primary" ALT, because I got into an early habit of using my mouse in the left hand.
Any accommodations are appreciated, but I have spent a lifetime adapting
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As I wrote before, the ALT GR key is used at the German keyboard
for certain special characters. The most important is the @ character
for email addresses.Instead of the ALT GR key on the right side, I can always use the ALT+STRG (CTRL) keys
on the left side instead. Since the ALT GR key only puts these two keys together in one.By the way, I don't know any shortcut in VS where I need the ALT GR key.
If then only sometimes in texts for special characters (where it could be replaced
by ALT+STRG (CTRL) ).Here a Wikipedia article about international keyboard layouts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltGr_key -
A couple more pieces of data:
Other commands are not left or right ALT specific.
For example to "Create a Copy of the Dragged Object", I can hold down either ALT key and drag, and it will copy the shape.
I noticed that in Preferences > Modifier Keys > Create a Copy of the Dragged Object is set to ALT by default and
Preferences > Modifier Keys > Create Composite Shape with Boolean Operation is set to ALT by default. -
@VectorStyler
I tested this in 1.1.086 and it seems to work!
Thank you for fixing this issue
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I am experiencing a regression and I think it may be related to this change.
To create a diacritical mark I currently have to hold AltGR and press the letter twice.I have noticed that pressing this key while entering text, changes the tool to Transform Tool, as it does when I press Ctrl. -
@encart Yes, this is a regression.
