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    Left and Right ALT keys are not mapped the same? (1.1.084 Win 11)

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      Subpath @Victor Vector
      last edited by Subpath

      @Victor-Vector

      i wonder where you get that right Alt-Key ?

      My Keyboard have only a Left Alt-Key
      and a right ALT GR-Key so this is in my eyes
      a ALT+CTRL-Key

      and as Composite Shapes works only
      with the Left (really) ALT-Key the right one
      could only create a normal Boolean

      Win 11
      CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
      GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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        b77 @Victor Vector
        last edited by

        @Victor-Vector Both Option (Alt) keys work the same on the Mac when creating a composite shape.
        No Windows machine to test.

        MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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        • Victor VectorV Offline
          Victor Vector @b77
          last edited by

          @Subpath Yes, my windows keyboard has two ALT keys that are identical in labelling. I have seen Mac keyboards with the AltGr distinction for non-US keyboards. In the US , the ALT keys are labelled identically and are treated as the same. Windows interprets CTRL+ALT as AltGr for the US keyboard.

          I checked my settings in Windows and they are set as follows:
          Windows display language = English (United States)
          Country or region = United States
          Regional format = English (United States)

          So no settings causing the keyboard to be seen as a non-us keyboard.

          @b77 Thanks for checking that on the Mac. I am still not ruling out my own configuration error, and maybe someone has encountered this before. If not, I hope it can be fixed.

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            Subpath @Victor Vector
            last edited by Subpath

            @Victor-Vector

            ... Yes, my windows keyboard has two ALT keys ...

            Ok, then i learn something new 🙂

            It's then maybe a thing between US and international keyboards layout.

            Since i am German, i use a German keyboard layout and the right ALT GR key
            is used here to display various German special characters.

            E.g. for the "@" sign ( ALT GR + q) or the "€" sign ( ALT GR + e).

            The ALT GR Key could seen as a reduced Version of ALT+STRG ( CTRL )
            you need only one key instead of two.

            Win 11
            CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
            GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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            • VectorStylerV Offline
              VectorStyler @Victor Vector
              last edited by

              @Victor-Vector Looks like a bug on Windows, will be fixed ASAP.

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              • VectorStylerV Offline
                VectorStyler @Victor Vector
                last edited by

                @Victor-Vector I checked this and currently the Right-Alt key is blocked as there were some issues reported earlier with it.
                I think it is also used for some special character input with some keyboard layouts.
                I will find a solution for this problem.

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                  Victor Vector @VectorStyler
                  last edited by

                  @VectorStyler I appreciate you looking into this and I hope you can get it working. Thank you!

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                  • VectorStylerV Offline
                    VectorStyler @Victor Vector
                    last edited by

                    @Victor-Vector said in Left and Right ALT keys are not mapped the same? (1.1.084 Win 11):

                    I appreciate you looking into this and I hope you can get it working. Thank you!

                    it is easy to get it working (just flip a flag) but the problem is that it caused some issues as a keyboard modifier while using the mouse.

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                    • b77B Offline
                      b77 @VectorStyler
                      last edited by b77

                      @VectorStyler I'm not that familiar with Windows, so maybe it's not a good or doable idea… but:

                      If Victor is left-handed, maybe a setting to switch this for left-handed users (disable the left Alt and
                      enable the right Alt) could be something useful.

                      MacBook Pro (Intel) running Monterey 12.6.4

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                        Victor Vector @b77
                        last edited by

                        @b77 Haha, you nailed it. I am left handed and the right ALT is my "primary" ALT, because I got into an early habit of using my mouse in the left hand.

                        Any accommodations are appreciated, but I have spent a lifetime adapting 😁

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                          Subpath
                          last edited by Subpath

                          As I wrote before, the ALT GR key is used at the German keyboard
                          for certain special characters. The most important is the @ character
                          for email addresses.

                          Instead of the ALT GR key on the right side, I can always use the ALT+STRG (CTRL) keys
                          on the left side instead. Since the ALT GR key only puts these two keys together in one.

                          By the way, I don't know any shortcut in VS where I need the ALT GR key.
                          If then only sometimes in texts for special characters (where it could be replaced
                          by ALT+STRG (CTRL) ).

                          Here a Wikipedia article about international keyboard layouts.
                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltGr_key

                          Win 11
                          CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                          GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                            Victor Vector @Subpath
                            last edited by

                            A couple more pieces of data:
                            Other commands are not left or right ALT specific.
                            For example to "Create a Copy of the Dragged Object", I can hold down either ALT key and drag, and it will copy the shape.
                            I noticed that in Preferences > Modifier Keys > Create a Copy of the Dragged Object is set to ALT by default and
                            Preferences > Modifier Keys > Create Composite Shape with Boolean Operation is set to ALT by default.

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                            • Victor VectorV Offline
                              Victor Vector @Victor Vector
                              last edited by

                              @VectorStyler
                              I tested this in 1.1.086 and it seems to work!
                              Thank you for fixing this issue 😊

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                                encart
                                last edited by

                                I am experiencing a regression and I think it may be related to this change.
                                To create a diacritical mark I currently have to hold AltGR and press the letter twice.I have noticed that pressing this key while entering text, changes the tool to Transform Tool, as it does when I press Ctrl.

                                MacBook Air M4 24Gb, Tahoe 26.2

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                                  VectorStyler @encart
                                  last edited by

                                  @encart Yes, this is a regression.

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