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    • VectorStylerV Offline
      VectorStyler @Kyriakos
      last edited by VectorStyler

      @Kyriakos Welcome to VectorStyler!
      Is this with an external screen? and is it a mac mini or laptop?

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        Kyriakos
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        @vectoradmin Appreciate for the welcome, this is on a Mini with an external screen over HDMI.

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          VectorStyler @Kyriakos
          last edited by

          @Kyriakos Same config as I use. What is the screen resolution?

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            Kyriakos
            last edited by

            @vectoradmin 2560x1440, it's a 27" Apple LED Cinema.

            I also have another Thunderbolt-one attached and it's glitching on that one as well.

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              Kyriakos
              last edited by Kyriakos

              After messing with various display-related system settings and enabling "Displays have separate spaces" in Mission Control the issue seems to have subsided, i've been using the app for the past hour and it hasn't glitched yet while previously it would happen every few seconds.

              If anyone uses 2 external monitors on a Mini and has that setting enabled then please disable it to see if the issue can be reproduced.

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                Kyriakos
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                I disabled the setting, re-logged and the artefacts returned immediately, only they are white this time instead of black, seems quite possibly related.

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                • VectorStylerV Offline
                  VectorStyler @Kyriakos
                  last edited by

                  @Kyriakos This also helps in debugging the issue. Thanks for the info!

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                    Kyriakos
                    last edited by

                    @vectoradmin Just reporting that i can still reproduce this issue - irregardless of the above setting - while using the Contour tool.

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                      fde101 Global Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Just to make sure you are aware, Apple has been investigating reports of issues like this with the M1 Mini as it seems to happen across various applications:

                      https://piunikaweb.com/2021/01/08/apple-investigating-mac-mini-m1-external-display-flickering-issue-on-dark-backgrounds-no-release-date-for-fix/

                      https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252106534

                      https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/m1-display-flicker-issue-on-m1-macs-internal-and-external-displays/724003

                      Thus this might not be a VectorStyler issue but rather something Apple needs to fix.

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                      • VectorStylerV Offline
                        VectorStyler @fde101
                        last edited by

                        @fde101 Thanks for letting us know!

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                          Kyriakos
                          last edited by Kyriakos

                          There are indeed several power and sync problems with the latest display driver which can cause monitors to crash and i've reported a few myself, but the artefacts in VS are visible in screenshots and recordings and only inside the canvas, this is (positive) indicator than it's not as severe of a problem.

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                            VectorStyler @Kyriakos
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                            @Kyriakos Could not replicate this issue yet, will keep it open.

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                              Kyriakos @VectorStyler
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                              @vectoradmin it seems to be fixed for all other tools except the Contour tool and i've narrowed it down to the 'Metal' document display mode. It also feels smoother and faster when set to 'Software'.

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                                VectorStyler @Kyriakos
                                last edited by

                                @Kyriakos Thanks for the info. I keep the issue open. This should not happen with Metal, and Software mode being faster is also strange (but maybe on M1 Apple made it faster with Metal).

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                                  Kyriakos @VectorStyler
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                                  @vectoradmin this might be relevant, VS exhibits the same flickering when you resize the document window.

                                  https://thume.ca/2019/06/19/glitchless-metal-window-resizing/

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                                    VectorStyler @Kyriakos
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                                    @Kyriakos Thanks, I will try if it can be improved based on those comments. I do use MTKView when displaying with Metal, and on Intel Macs using Software display (basically just showing an image) is too slow.

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                                      Kyriakos @VectorStyler
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                                      @vectoradmin it feels slower when it's jittering, when it's not everything is extremely smooth and responsive.

                                      I am trying Software mode right now and the only perceivable difference for me so far is document resizing which feels quite laggy. Drawing shapes however feels as smooth as Metal, i am not perceiving any major difference.

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                                        encart
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                                        I saw these glitches on my laptop with Win10 also. But now I can't reproduce them. They appeard when I was rotating objects.

                                        MacBook Air M4 24Gb, Tahoe 26.2

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                                          VectorStyler @Kyriakos
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                                          @Kyriakos @encart Can the flickering issue be replicated? There is a double buffering enabled for all display types now.

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