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    Kind of pattern selection using the Colorize feature

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      Subpath @monsterfox
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      @monsterfox

      Well, my method may not be helpful in all cases

      Maybe you could post a sample file, here in this Thread?
      Then I can take a look at it.

      If so, please also include an example of what
      the end result should look like.
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      You work, of course with more complex objects than I do.

      If you want to define an object order with the Shape Builder tool,
      the objects shouldn't overlap. But the Shape Builder itself also
      works when objects are grouped.

      Win 11
      CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
      GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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        VectorStyler @monsterfox
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        @monsterfox said in Kind of pattern selection using the Colorize feature:

        It would be great if grouped objects could be treated as independent ones.

        I will try to find a solution for this.

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          monsterfox @Subpath
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          @Subpath 0_1744513960294_2.vstyler Here is the file you requested.

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            Subpath @monsterfox
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            @monsterfox

            What do you want to achieve?
            Just coloring that parts?
            Then could you show me a picture of what it should look like?

            Or create some kind of selection pattern?

            Win 11
            CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
            GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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              monsterfox @Subpath
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              @Subpath The file contains 4 to 5 groups, with both paths and fills in black. I want them to appear as separate, independent shapes and automatically change into 4 to 5 different colors.

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                Subpath @monsterfox
                last edited by Subpath

                @monsterfox
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                I've been experimenting a bit with the designs in your file.
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                Separate filled shapes and outlines

                Filled objects can be separated from outline objects.
                By selecting filled Shapes via.
                Menu > Select > Styling > Filled
                and move them to another Place
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                Coloring Shapes

                Coloring your Designs via Colorize makes no sense to me.
                The Designs differ to much, have different number of objects
                and/or the object order is different.

                I developed a way, but I don't know if it will work for you.
                It uses the "Selected Intersecting Shapes" feature to select shapes.
                You could color them then.

                The Video here show the Steps needed

                Once the shapes are colored, you can select them
                with via the Magic Wand Mode for selecting shapes.
                Or via the way i showed in the Video.

                Important!
                The color for the circle is for selection purposes only.
                So this color should not appear in the Design.

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                CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                  monsterfox @Subpath
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                  @Subpath Thank you for sharing. Although this approach doesn't quite fit my workflow, I've picked up some useful tips. My workflow is a bit complex and would take some time to explain—perhaps I'll make a video about it when I get the chance.

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                    Subpath @monsterfox
                    last edited by Subpath

                    @monsterfox

                    Your welcome.
                    A video sounds interesting; I'd also like to learn something new. 🙂
                    But no need to rush it; do it whenever it suits you.

                    Win 11
                    CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                    GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                      VectorStyler @monsterfox
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                      @monsterfox said in Kind of pattern selection using the Colorize feature:

                      It would be great if grouped objects could be treated as independent ones.

                      I need some examples for this where the selection is chaotic.

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                        Subpath @VectorStyler
                        last edited by Subpath

                        @VectorStyler

                        In my opinion, it might look chaotic, but may not be really chaotic.

                        In all my attempts, using Colorize, the fill colors followed the selection
                        order of the shapes. I didn't get any different results in my experiments.

                        Only the trick with the ShapeBuilder to define a new selection order didn't
                        always work. I'll try to record a case if I see it again.

                        If you look at the Monsterfox sample file, the designs have different selection
                        orders. You can see this if you take a design and track the selection order
                        with "Previous" or "Next Selection." This could be the reason why the result
                        may look like chaotic / does not look as expected.
                        The Designs have also a different Object count.

                        Win 11
                        CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                        GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                          monsterfox @VectorStyler
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                          @VectorStyler 0_1744971300530_4.vstyler

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                            Subpath
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                            @VectorStyler

                            I created a video here in which Colorize doesn't
                            follow the selection order.

                            Here's the video:

                            While experimenting with this again, I noticed an curious behavior:

                            I previously selected the shapes with the Magic Wand tool.

                            But when I select the same shapes again with the
                            Rectangular Selection tool, the coloring works as expected.

                            You can see this in this video.

                            Win 11
                            CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                            GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                              Subpath
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                              @VectorStyler

                              I think i got it

                              When using the Magic Wand tool to select
                              the shapes you want to Colorize

                              you have to pick/select the first shape you selected
                              with the Shape Builder tool.

                              Then everything will work as intended.

                              here the Video

                              I am fine with this, as it seems logical to me.

                              Win 11
                              CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                              GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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                                Subpath
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                                @monsterfox , @VectorStyler
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                                You can't simply create a color palette and color
                                your shapes with it.

                                There is a little more to do then this

                                Either
                                You need to determine the object order and adjust the
                                colors in your palette to that order.

                                Or create the objects of your Design according to a specific system/order
                                so that the order in which the objects are created are always the same.

                                In addition, the number of shapes in the design must match
                                the number of colors in the color palette.

                                The Shape Builder trick can only be used to a limited extent here,
                                and only with objects that don't overlap.

                                Here is a video where I created a color palette according to
                                the selection order of your design.

                                Here the video

                                Win 11
                                CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6-core.
                                GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070.

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