@_NM_ I managed to replicate some refresh performance issues occurring after changes. I will try to improve this.

I don't think it has to do with terminology. As @VectorStyler said, this is a new concept that is not found in any drawing/graphical/design app. So I'm trying to think like when a new user (beginner or advanced or whatever background) test drives this application and finds this "multiple canvases" concept with parents and children and reference and artwork and roles and so forth. As someone (the new user) who never seen the existence of such feature, how will they react to this? Say, on a scale of 1-10 how easy it is not only to understand but also to apply and use what multiple canvases offer in practice? Let's say they open the Canvas & Artboard Panel and they see "Reference Canvas" and you were to ask them "What do you think this means? What does this do? Why is it called reference? Does it reference something, if so what?" What would they say? How easy it is to guess what the role of a reference canvas is? People who come from the world of Adobe, Affinity, Autodesk, Maxxon, or any other products that has a document, canvas, artboard, and layers, how easy it is for them to understand the concept? Not to mention the world of "roles" that can be attached to the canvases. The way I see it, there are two options: They dig in and try to understand They don't understand, get confused, and one way or another they give up because they don't care. Now, let's assume there are bugs lurking in the various canvases and their roles and options. If people find all this confusing and they don't dig in and try to understand how all this will be beneficial in a design, the bugs will never be discovered. You will only discover bugs if you start using it in a project. But if it's confusing, you don't understand, or just don't care, then you will never use it. If most users will never use it, then what's the point having it? Just to have it there? Is there anyone who is actively using this application in the past 2+ or so years took advantage of these multiple canvases and their roles and hierarchies in a project? Look at @b77's question above. I assume he is using this app for awhile and yet he still has questions for not understanding certain concepts about it. If something is overly complex, does it encourage users to use it? I read the manual about multiple canvases and roles and many things are still not clear. Anyhow...just thinking out loud.

No, it was just an empty document with a circle and a star in it. I don't seem to be able to recreate it at this point, but when it happens, I will save it.

@_NM_ said in Selecting Paths and Objects: It is perplexing when the selected canvas and layer differ. I Welcome to vectorStyler. Yes, the selection in the Layers panel and on the canvas are different. These can be synchronized (Layers panel menu -> Panel Options) if needed. This mode (similar to how it is done in Adobe Illustrator) enables some features between the canvas and Layers panel.

@pentool Replicated here also, there seems to be a precision issue in this case. I will try to fix this ASAP.

@pentool Yes it is related, but it is a feature. Selecting rotated artboards will rotate to view to align the artboard for editing.

@Boldline Active shape is something else. I think this should be an option of the Node tool, whether to allow selection of other shapes, while a shape is already selected.

@Boldline Here is a Video of another good use for the third example (but remember you need a group, or a dummy group to work this way) [image: 1691686355975-draw-inside-trick.png]

@pentool said in How to turn off layer drag preview?: Those who want it can turn it on, those who don't, turn it off. This is where the many customizations and settings originate from!

I won't rush to say that more complex arrangements with multiple grids are not needed — maybe the developer had something in mind with that and didn't get around to post a tutorial with a specific case where this is needed. In any case, an app can be complex for when complex stuff is needed, as long as the complex parts cannot be enabled by mistake and don't interfere with the expected behavior for basic stuff.

@VectorStyler Nice!

@VectorStyler Well, this is at two places. In the Transform > Rotate and Transform > Transform dialogs. I think the value control works (the one where you can either input a number and change with the up/down arrow keys, or it opens as a horizontal bar that you can drag left and right)

@pentool Will be fixed, it is the "Join" drop down The documentation needs the major update

@VectorStyler Ah, that's right! That's what it was! I knew I added the actions to the Preset Mgr somehow but I forgot how I did it. SELECTION! You have to select the group! Yes, that's what it was. It's not as obvious because the only indication that the group in the Action panel is selected is that more icons get enabled at the bottom of the panel. And it's easy to overlook. Maybe because I'm using a dark theme...? Will have to see how the light one looks.

@pentool There is a bug with composite shapes containing transformed shapes. Can be replicated here also, will try to fix ASAP. As a workaround, convert all (including the lines) into curves before making a composite shape. That will "bake" the transform into the lines.

@pentool said in Weird preview line after editing a node with the pen tool: Once you adjust/edit a node with the pen tool and then want to continue drawing the line, the preview segment will be heavily curved. It should be straight because the last point is a cusp node. Added this to the backlog.

@pentool Added this to the backlog, looks like a bug.

@pentool it is the Eraser checkbox, I will update the documentation.